Plutarch wrote:I don't go because I keep wanting to correct the grammar of the speakers.
TROLL.
Look, the Mormon church is like scAmway. Are you familiar with it?
When you have "friends" over for a date with the circles and whiteboard, your house had better be stocked with scAmway crap top to bottom, otherwise you are not a full believer in what you are selling.
in my opinion, if you come here defending Mormonism, you had better believe in it 100% and be completely active, full tithe pay, temple attending and full of sappy Mormon zeal, otherwise I see no reason in listening to ANY of your arguments that you yourself are obbiously not completely committed to in the first place!
It would be like pushing scAmway and shopping at Alberston's. GET IT?
I have yet to figure out why certain people are here as well....And no they probably do not or will not get it..
I like that sappy Mormon zeal.....and why should we listen or give advice???
Wouldn't this person be better off on the FAIR board????
And I am tired of people defending Mormonism on this board...and then calling us who don't names....
So ......I say watch what your are trying to defend beuase we don't buy .....AMWAY
When I wake up I will be hungry....but this feels so good right now aaahhhhhh........
I know the Church is true. It has been witnessed to me many times, and I have been the recipient of and have witnessed many miracles.
Yet, I am inactive and don't go.
What should I do?
P
C'mon folks, Plutarch is pulling our collective leg. Not long ago he was representing himself as a bishop, dropping names of his GA buddies, etc., etc., etc. He goes, he goes. Don't fall for it, gang.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
Ray A wrote: Just for the record, I still believe the Book of Mormon is inspired, but as history it's bunk. JMO.
Ray,
You restore my faith that all people have critical thinking skills. Thanks.
Bond
How would a comment by Ray be indicative of all people's critical thinking skills?
Ray believes the Book of Mormon is a work inspired by (his) God. How is this an indication that critical thinking was used to reach that belief/conclusion?
I was referring to the part I quoted about it being historically false. 50 percent right is better than none.
Bond
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
I know the Church is true. It has been witnessed to me many times, and I have been the recipient of and have witnessed many miracles.
Yet, I am inactive and don't go.
What should I do?
P
C'mon folks, Plutarch is pulling our collective leg. Not long ago he was representing himself as a bishop, dropping names of his GA buddies, etc., etc., etc. He goes, he goes. Don't fall for it, gang.
I wonder if Plutarch can spell "dork"? Oh, well. I fell for it. Dang. LOL
I know the Church is true. It has been witnessed to me many times, and I have been the recipient of and have witnessed many miracles.
Yet, I am inactive and don't go.
What should I do?
P
C'mon folks, Plutarch is pulling our collective leg. Not long ago he was representing himself as a bishop, dropping names of his GA buddies, etc., etc., etc. He goes, he goes. Don't fall for it, gang.
Yep. Just like how he represented himself as actually having seen an MMM-related letter which contradicts the scholarship of Bagley and Brooks.
Bond...James Bond wrote: I was referring to the part I quoted about it being historically false. 50 percent right is better than none.
Bond
50% is not necessarily better than none, in this case. I can appreciate someone who is indoctrinated into Mormonism at a young age, or someone who hasn't looked into facts regarding Mormonism, reaching a conclusion (albeit irrationally) that the Book of Mormon is historical and god inspired. But I'm not the least bit inpressed with someone's critical thinking skills who claims the Book of Mormon isn't historical, who knows historical data and competing theories of how the Book of Mormon evolved, but none the less believes a God inspired it.
Ray A wrote: Just for the record, I still believe the Book of Mormon is inspired, but as history it's bunk. JMO.
Ray,
You restore my faith that all people have critical thinking skills. Thanks.
Bond
You know, that was my stance. Still is in a way, but I don't read the Book of Mormon anymore. But in my uber-mormon ward up here in DC, that stance had better be quiet, it upset the natives.
Each one has to find his peace from within. And peace to be real must be unaffected by outside circumstances. -Ghandi
I know the Church is true. It has been witnessed to me many times, and I have been the recipient of and have witnessed many miracles.
Yet, I am inactive and don't go.
What should I do?
P
C'mon folks, Plutarch is pulling our collective leg. Not long ago he was representing himself as a bishop, dropping names of his GA buddies, etc., etc., etc. He goes, he goes. Don't fall for it, gang.
Rollo,
First of all, I love your quote. Second, is he really funning with us? Perhaps that'll explain my confusion at his wanting to correct the speakers' grammar. Kind of Wade-ish in its obsession, don't you think?
Each one has to find his peace from within. And peace to be real must be unaffected by outside circumstances. -Ghandi
Ray A wrote: Just for the record, I still believe the Book of Mormon is inspired, but as history it's bunk. JMO.
Ray,
You restore my faith that all people have critical thinking skills. Thanks.
Bond
You know, that was my stance. Still is in a way, but I don't read the Book of Mormon anymore. But in my uber-mormon ward up here in DC, that stance had better be quiet, it upset the natives.
The acknowledgement that the Book of Mormon is historic crap is the first step and shows at least some common sense. Hopefully Ray will do a bit more critical thinking in the future. A step at a time. A step at a time.
Bond
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
Ray A wrote: Just for the record, I still believe the Book of Mormon is inspired, but as history it's bunk. JMO.
I like that. May I use it? "The Book of Mormon is inspired bunk."
Perhaps I should just call it "manipulative bunk" rather than "inspired".
Stories that portray life and death situations, the struggling of the soul for peace and happiness, the search for ultimate truth and the meaning of life naturally touch our hearts as humans. It's the stuff good novels are about.
Not that I think the Book of Mormon is a good novel, or anything.
"Suppose we've chosen the wrong god. Every time we go to church we're just making him madder and madder" --Homer Simpson's version of Pascal's Wager
Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool.
Religion is ignorance reduced to a system.