Baptism for the Dead

[_Gazelam]

No baptism is bad Monster get you

[_Rollo Tomasi]

Do former popes get baptized in the afterlife?

There was a recent report in Sunstone that Pope John Paul II was baptized by proxy four times within a month after he became eligible (i.e., dead for one year).

[_Rollo Tomasi]

The ordinance has to be done pre-ressurection to be of effect.

Reference?

Also it is a requirement to take on the name of Christ to enter heaven. No baptism ordinance. No heaven.

By "heaven," I think you mean the highest degree of the CK, right? The determination of who gets in won't be made until after the resurrection and Millennium, so it seems there would be plenty of time to baptize any resurrected being who wants to be.

[_Bond...James Bond]

Do former popes get baptized in the afterlife?

There was a recent report in Sunstone that Pope John Paul II was baptized by proxy four times within a month after he became eligible (i.e., dead for one year).

See this is what irritates me. I'm fairly sure the Pope has made his spiritual decision. This is just insulting to his memory.

Bond

[_OUT OF MY MISERY]

Do former popes get baptized in the afterlife?

There was a recent report in Sunstone that Pope John Paul II was baptized by proxy four times within a month after he became eligible (i.e., dead for one year).

See this is what irritates me. I'm fairly sure the Pope has made his spiritual decision. This is just insulting to his memory.

Bond

No Mormons make the spiritual decisions for us all, what have you forgotten that Bond....Shame on you

WE are too stpid to make our own spiritual decisions...that is why they keep on keeping on

[_Gazelam]

Q: reference?

A: D&C 88: 11-42

Gaz

[_Polygamy Porter]

Q: reference?

A: D&C 88: 11-42

Gaz

What proof can you offer that would prove that old Joe did not make up the crap in the D&C?

Did you know it had over 16,000 changes made to it?

I guess Jesus is from the southern part of Kolob and has improper english? Or was Joe hard of hearing?

One of the major changes was section 101 verse 4.

From 1836 to 1876 it read:

"Inasmuch as this Church of Christ has been reproached with the crime of fornication and polygamy, we declare that we believe that one man should have one wife, and one woman but one husband, except in the case of death, when either is at liberty to marry again." -D&C 101:4, History of the Church, vol. 2, pg. 247

So get this gaz, the membership lived a life which was not aligned with their own doctrines which were written in their own canonized scripture. Section 101:4 was in place while polygamy was not only being practiced, but preached from the pulpit.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

Q: reference?

A: D&C 88: 11-42

Your reference doesn't support your argument at all -- those verses do not say that one must be baptized by proxy in an LDS temple before being resurrected.

[_Gazelam]

What the verses say is that the Light of Christ, and also the spirit of God or Holy Ghost sanctify a person through obedience to law.

How does a person receive the gift of the Holy Ghost which sanctifies?

[_Rollo Tomasi]

What the verses say is that the Light of Christ, and also the spirit of God or Holy Ghost sanctify a person through obedience to law.

How does a person receive the gift of the Holy Ghost which sanctifies?

But these verses are talking of "sanctification" for purposes of deciding to which kingdom a resurrected person is assigned, not a requirement for resurrection itself.