Apparently getting your name removed from church records...

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_MormonMendacity
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Jason Bourne wrote:
Dr. Shades wrote:Your post is pretty much EXACTLY what author Natalie R. Collins complains about on her weblog. She had her name removed from the records, not once but TWICE, but it STILL showed up on the ward list with all the attendant Christmas cards, invitations to homemaking night, etc.

So you're not alone. I essentially proved that the church doesn't remove "removed" names from their records here.



This certianly does not prove that names are not removed. There were a couple of slight abberetions. I can assure you that on a local level, names properly processed for removal are indeed removed. Of course I cannot say whether there is a master list in SLC that these names still show up on. But onthe local ward if ten people askes to have their name removed, and the paper work is properly processed, that ward's membership drops by ten.

I have been told that the parents see their former LDS children on their personal membership records without baptismal dates. So, while I too believe that mostly people are removed fairly expeditiously...there are a lot of trails still there.
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_Jason Bourne
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Post by _Jason Bourne »

MormonMendacity wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:
Dr. Shades wrote:Your post is pretty much EXACTLY what author Natalie R. Collins complains about on her weblog. She had her name removed from the records, not once but TWICE, but it STILL showed up on the ward list with all the attendant Christmas cards, invitations to homemaking night, etc.

So you're not alone. I essentially proved that the church doesn't remove "removed" names from their records here.



This certianly does not prove that names are not removed. There were a couple of slight abberetions. I can assure you that on a local level, names properly processed for removal are indeed removed. Of course I cannot say whether there is a master list in SLC that these names still show up on. But onthe local ward if ten people askes to have their name removed, and the paper work is properly processed, that ward's membership drops by ten.

I have been told that the parents see their former LDS children on their personal membership records without baptismal dates. So, while I too believe that mostly people are removed fairly expeditiously...there are a lot of trails still there.



I think this is correct. Printing out a full membership record for an adult with Children will have all family members on it, but I think it indicates those who are not members.
_Brackite
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Post by _Brackite »

Hi There,
My name is still on the Church's Record, yet my ward did Not send me a Christmas card this year. I didn't even get a Christmas card from my ward last year. This makes me feel kind of sad, that my ward did Not send me a Christmas card.
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Post by _Sam Harris »

Brackite, the special gifts are only for those who want out. A friend of mine who is also inactive used to have stuff left at her doorstep, baskets and things.

When I was active and struggling financially, emotionally, spiritually, no one gave a damn. But the minute my widow's mite stopped showing up along with me, all of a sudden people who didn't know me or really care started calling and showing up. And now a Christmas card from people who are not supposed to have my address.

I don't like the way the church makes personal information available anyway. I had a stalker for 18 months because my telephone number was so easily available. He saw me at church, came to the logic that I was his nubian queen, got my number from someone who got it from the ward directory, got my address of the internet, and proceeded to show up on my doorstep uninvited and unanounced for 18 months. When I finally told him that I was gonna call the police and have them crack down on his bishopric, he backed off.

I don't want the church to have my information. My mom knows all the Mormons who are my friends, and any other strange, sunday-dressed white people are always suspect when they ring our bell. I've tried to protect them from mom's wrath in the past (she'll just yell at them and slam the door, or worse, get a restraining order), but I may not this time.

My letter said my name was removed. I see elders in my neighborhoods all the time. As angry as I have been at the years I feel I wasted in the church, I do not bother them. I don't want them bothering me, either.
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