Response to Dan Peterson

[_The Dude]

Hi Runtu...

Are you sure you saw the post in its original form? Why do you think someone could not have edited the post?

I mean many of us have posted things which we later went back and edited out. No?

I'm not sure what happened either way ... the whole thing just seems so odd.

Ya know?

The post was definitely edited. First it was only ten questions, but then Gee thought of some more and it was beefed up to 30. That happened a few hours after the original went up.

I think it means a lot that CaliforniaKid doesn't remember seeing a legal threat in Gee's original post.


So what do people think of Will Schryver's warning to CalKid? How do you read that? It seems pretty damn obvious to me that Will was delivering a message from Gee in that statement. Yet Momus warned Calmoriah away from such "wild speculation". LOL What a world.

[_Runtu]

The post was definitely edited. First it was only ten questions, but then Gee thought of some more and it was beefed up to 30. That happened a few hours after the original went up.

I think it means a lot that CaliforniaKid doesn't remember seeing a legal threat in Gee's original post.


So what do people think of Will Schryver's warning to CalKid? How do you read that? It seems pretty damn obvious to me that Will was delivering a message from Gee in that statement. Yet Momus warned Calmoriah away from such "wild speculation". LOL What a world.

I never said it wasn't edited, just that like The Dude and CK, I didn't see a threat of a lawsuit in it when I saw it. I'm pretty sure I saw it early on, at least within a couple of hours of the initial post.

Sorry, I have no interest in getting involved in this whole, sordid mess. I apologize for saying anything at all. Pretend I wasn't here.

[_dartagnan]

So what do people think of Will Schryver's warning to CalKid? How do you read that? It seems pretty damn obvious to me that Will was delivering a message from Gee in that statement. Yet Momus warned Calmoriah away from such "wild speculation". LOL What a world.

The comment by Schryver is stronger and more to the poin than what I recalled in the original email. Again, it was just a subtle remark to the effect that if he thought it was worth it he would consider legal action. But the comment from Schryver is a doozy because it implicates not only Gee but also William. Clearly we have two upper level apologists condoning legal action. And I think it is hilarious that anyone would try to insinuate that Gee wasn't the person who "requested" that Will inform us. Who the hell else could it have been, Will's wife? One of his circle jerk buddies?

[_The Dude]

So what do people think of Will Schryver's warning to CalKid? How do you read that? It seems pretty damn obvious to me that Will was delivering a message from Gee in that statement. Yet Momus warned Calmoriah away from such "wild speculation". LOL What a world.

The comment by Schryver is stronger and more to the poin than what I recalled in the original email. Again, it was just a subtle remark to the effect that if he thought it was worth it he would consider legal action. But the comment from Schryver is a doozy because it implicates not only Gee but also William. Clearly we have two upper level apologists condoning legal action. And I think it is hilarious that anyone would try to insinuate that Gee wasn't the person who "requested" that Will inform us. Who the hell else could it have been, Will's wife? One of his circle jerk buddies?

Let me clarify. I think it is damn obvious that Will meant for us to understand that as a message from Gee. Whether it was for real, or just Will blowing smoke, that's the only thing to wonder about. You know how he works on the image of rubbing elbows with the "upper level apologist" don't you? Is that image for real? If it is, then the message from Gee is also possibly real.

[_dartagnan]

So don't be surprised if Will is ordered to pull a Jack Bauer on us an "go dark,"since the answer to this question is going to be embarrassing no matter what the answer.

[Guest]

It looks like gtaggart has jumped on the bandwagon against me, oh well.

Pity.

Some guy named Raz says it is "clear" I have been proven a liar on four different issues.

Wow, too bad he cannot list them.

Dan's post about his phone call to Gee, technically doesn't contradict what I recall. I misspoke in my opening post because Gee never has threatened anyone. That would entail threatening specific names, which I never said he did. When asked about my recollection I said,

"Gee made a remark to the effect that if he thought it was worth it he'd consider filing a libel suit. It was short and subtle, but it was there." - Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:34 pm

"He said he was considering a lawsuit against those who call him incompetent."- Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:05 pm

Two hours later Dan posted what Gee told him today,

"[Gee] did say that he had briefly and casually discussed the possibility of legal action with his lawyer brother-in-law."

So until Gee unambiguously denies having mentioned this "possibility" or his "consideration" in the email, I don't see anything here inconsistent with what I recall.

But I am sure we can expect gtaggart and Bokovoy and the others to focus on my so-called "lie" about the email being edited, but anyone who reads my statements in the thread last week can clearly see that I at least believed that is what Gee said. I was surprised nobody else remembered it, and if I get home and my cached files don't confirm it, I just might have myself admitted.

But expect nobody to deal with the obvious elephant in the room. William Schryver made it perfectly clear Gee told him to warn us of possible lawsuits, so as far as I am concerned, this does everything (and more) to confirm their hypocrisy. There is only one possible way they could wriggle out of this, and that is to make Will the fall guy. Now Will is a blathering idiot, but he has come a long way, and I just don't see him making this kind of bold declaration unless it were true. Not because he is predisposed to telling the truth (heavens no!) but because he likes to make good impressions for the elite above him, and he would never do anything to endanger their respect and admiration for him. I mean at the very least we are witnessing the downfall of William Schryver, who will probably be accused of making all that stuff up just so Gee can save face.

[Guest]

I seriously doubt this will be the downfall of William Schryver, even if he did make it up.

EDIT: juliann complimented my integrity. Should I be worried?

EDIT #2: Obviously the previous edit was a joke. Thanks to juliann for the compliment.

[_dartagnan]

She probably thinks integrity is something you use to make lasagna.

[_Dr. Shades]

I was surprised nobody else remembered it, and if I get home and my cached files don't confirm it, I just might have myself admitted.

That won't be necessary. I certainly remember it.

Before Chaos posted Gee's actual test, he/she gave some background information to it. He/she said, in part, that Gee had been "affected" (or words to that effect) by all the criticism he's been receiving, and has been considering a lawsuit against those who have so "slandered" him.

So no, the threat wasn't posted by Gee himself; it was merely conveyed by Chaos. But it was definitely there.

[_truth dancer]

I don't know what to make of this whole thing...

There are what, at least four or five people who absolutely remember an original post that appears to have material missing or added, and, for the most part, they remember the same sort of thing, and yet the mods are saying the post was never edited?

Could the mods be unaware that a poster edited it?

I just don't get it. I'm baffled.

~dancer~

edit: OK, so Shades are you saying there was a separate post that was removed? Or a part of the post that was not written by Gee that was removed?

In other words, not edited but removed?