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Ajax wrote:Because he wasn't bound to their money, Donald Trump was able to challenge this and trounced the establishment Republican party in the primary of 2016.
Please list examples of outsourcing to China that Trump stopped. All Trump did is lie to his base, you, and promise he would do things to put American workers first -- and the verdict is out as to whether those things would actually work to put the American worker first had he actually done any of them; most likely they would not help much if at all -- but all he really did is implement a regressive tax and corporate tax cuts (as someone else just explained) that made the rich richer and the middle-class and working-class, and underclass poorer. And he did nothing along the lines of stopping outsourcing. The elite have found a way to enslave you Ajax, by feeding you endless propaganda that says Trump is going to stop the very thing he's steeped in doing himself to help the elite. But while he's robbing you blind, you fall down to thank him. Just as you would in North Korea, worshiping Kim Jong-un.

Ironically, the f-wads who support Trump believe that the virus was engineered in a lab for malicious purpose. What kind of a dumb plan is that? China has suffered a lot from this, as many nations including the US have realized that relying on China for everything is putting too many eggs in one basket. While that doesn't mean producing everything domestically, it does mean switching up outsourcers at the very least. And so if Bill Gates and Dr. Fauci conspired with the Chinese lab to produce the virus, then they did more than any Republican ever has nor ever will do to taper outsourcing to China.
Democrats gain popularity by writing people checks for doing nothing
The first check I got was the largest check I will get related to the pandemic, and it was signed Donald J. Trump. And it was for doing nothing; dumbass.
These handouts are not popular amongst those in the working class (income above $100k)
As someone else pointed out to you, the working class does not have $100k income. You are a member of the middle-class, Ajax. You know virtually nothing, Ajax. The handouts were very popular amongst Trump supporters. The Trump supporters on my walk bragged that Trump's stimulus was better than any check they got from Obama. Trump knew the handouts were popular, which is why he tried near the very end to get another big round of vote buying in, and all the Republicans, probably you also, were mad at Mitch for resisting.
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.
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It's would seem that the slogan "America First" consists mostly of saying "America First" a lot, and occasionally pretending to care about America.
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Does he never shut up with his crap?
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MeDotOrg wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:24 am
We've lost more Americans to Covid than died in World War II
Isn't it worse than that? I recall that in a recent speech President Biden said that the COVID death toll so far matched the total of WWi, WWII and the Vietnam war combined.

Another matchless Trump achievement! How he must love his fellow Americans!

(Actually, to go by his record, he probably thinks that people who die of COVID are 'losers', just like those WWII soldiers in the cemetery in France he did not visit ... because it was raining.)
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The answer to the question is that the money comes from deficit spending, and some of that deficit can be made up by increasing the tax rate on the wealthiest Americans.
Why not increase the tax rate before spending the money to save interest charges?

Most of this spending had nothing to do with COVID. No, this is no different than a drug dealer giving out a taste of the cocaine to get the American people dependent upon these benefits. This type of spending is going to go on long after COVID. With nearly 70% of people over 60 vaccinated there's really no reason people shouldn't be back to work now. But the Democrats seem to want this COVID crisis to carry on.

An interesting side note. Why is the death toll from COVID so much lower in Africa. Tanzania was at zero. Do they have a lot more money to throw at COVID? Why do African Americans in the US suffer so much more from COVID than their cousins in Africa? Perhaps it's very simple. People are just too fat in the US.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:08 pm
Why not increase the tax rate before spending the money to save interest charges?
Because currently the US government can raise money at historically low long-term interest rates:
less than 1 percent on 10-year debt and about 1.6 percent on 30-year debt.
https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/how- ... eral-debt/

Given the urgent need to get money into Americans' pockets that they will spend on their immediate needs, and hence benefit the shops and services whom they pay and who will in turn pay taxes to the government and soak up some of the current unemployment by hiring more people, the decision to borrow now is pretty well a no-brainer.

Well, to judge from your question, perhaps not quite a no-brainer.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:33 am
It's would seem that the slogan "America First" consists mostly of saying "America First" a lot, and occasionally pretending to care about America.
I totally agree. Yelling empty slogans for the most part.
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.
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Why not increase the tax rate before spending the money to save interest charges?
Do you actually know anything about anything other than the human eye, Ajax? You should really take some time to learn about economic basics. If I recommend some youtube videos will you watch them and try to learn something? It won't be Prager U BS, or anything partisan. I want to help you be less stupid.

It doesn't matter where you fall on the market / social welfare line, under no existing worldview is raising taxes known to work as an economic stimulus.
Most of this spending had nothing to do with COVID. No, this is no different than a drug dealer giving out a taste of the cocaine to get the American people dependent upon these benefits.


You mean the addicts who got 2,400$ checks signed Donald J. Tump? Or are you denying this ever happened? Recall, he would have given more, and you and your republican friends got all over Mitch for not playing ball.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:08 pm
An interesting side note. Why is the death toll from COVID so much lower in Africa. Tanzania was at zero. Do they have a lot more money to throw at COVID?
Mainly because despite their greater poverty and because of their past experience dealing with local outbreaks of serious disease like Ebola, they had a much more rational and responsible response to the COVID-19 threat than Trump did.

What explains Africa’s successful response to the COVID-19 pandemic?


Do you never read anything other than hard right conspiracy propaganda and disinformation?
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Gunnar wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:02 am
Do you never read anything other than hard right conspiracy propaganda and disinformation?
It appears rather obvious that ajax finds comfort and solace in the BS worldview he's adopted for himself. It's almost as though Hannity and Carlson have create a padded bunker of terror for him to exist within, protecting him from the reality that would actually make him feel better about life were he to be convinced of it.

I honestly am at a loss for how to see Republican voters as anything but idiotic gullible rubes.
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