Dr. Steuss wrote:Or... the only way around it is to realize that G-d occasionally removes His hand from the anus of His ventriloquist puppets.
LOL! This is quote-worthy material! ;)
Doctor Steuss wrote:harmony wrote:[...]The only way around that is to realize that Brigham wasn't God's mouthpiece and he didn't speak for or with God. He was a man, trying his human best, but not in communication with diety and certainly not speaking for diety.
Or... the only way around it is to realize that G-d occasionally removes His hand from the anus of His ventriloquist puppets.
liz3564 wrote:Some Schmo wrote:Levi wrote: Why the hostility? I see Mormons as, in large part, good family folk, dedicated to their Mormon community, and spiritual in their own way. What is wrong with that?
You could probably say the exact same thing about the KKK:
Why the hostility? I see KKK as, in large part, good family folk, dedicated to their KKK community, and spiritual in their own way. What is wrong with that?
Oh, come on, Some Schmo. You know I love you, but this is a VERY over the top comparison.
The main focus of the KKK is to exterminate all non-white races. They are an extremely violent group which has been reigned in by US law.
Although it's true that the Mormons have had a shady past in certain instances, the focus of the Mormon Church is not blatantly violent. It is a religion....a way to worship Christ. Does it have crazy tenets? Yes, but so do most churches. And, I'm not speaking about cults here...I'm speaking about established mainstream Christian churches such as Catholics, Baptists, etc. If Mormonism is a cult, then all of the other mainstream churches are cults, too.
Doctor Steuss wrote:harmony wrote:[...]The only way around that is to realize that Brigham wasn't God's mouthpiece and he didn't speak for or with God. He was a man, trying his human best, but not in communication with diety and certainly not speaking for diety.
Or... the only way around it is to realize that G-d occasionally removes His hand from the anus of His ventriloquist puppets.
Who Knows wrote: The problem is, 'god' and/or the 'puppet' don't tell the audience when (or if) the hand is removed from the anus (or whether it was ever in the anus).
It's a nice 'out'. If you don't like it - the hand wasn't in.
Some Schmo wrote:Who Knows wrote: The problem is, 'god' and/or the 'puppet' don't tell the audience when (or if) the hand is removed from the anus (or whether it was ever in the anus).
It's a nice 'out'. If you don't like it - the hand wasn't in.
I think SWK had a hand in his anus... and he liked it.
:D
harmony wrote:Some Schmo wrote:Who Knows wrote: The problem is, 'god' and/or the 'puppet' don't tell the audience when (or if) the hand is removed from the anus (or whether it was ever in the anus).
It's a nice 'out'. If you don't like it - the hand wasn't in.
I think SWK had a hand in his anus... and he liked it.
:D
I saw him. No freakin' way. He wasn't that limber.
harmony wrote:[...]Which just goes to show how the teachings of men get mingled with God-breathed scripture.
And how easy it is to determine which is which. That which raises us up is from God. That which beats us down is not.
Some Schmo wrote:Of course it's all about perspective. That was the point of my post. Mormons have all kinds of justifications for the things they believe and do, and despite the harm they do to people as a result of their beliefs and resulting actions, they do it anyway... just like the KKK.