KimberlyAnn wrote: Funny, Ray, I have always heard that. Everyone who has boys and girls says the girls are more difficult, almost without exception. I have four of them!
KA
If you survive you'll deserve the Congressional Medal of Honor (Coffee will probably kill me here). Girls are more demanding, and expect more, and having doting daddys doesn't help. I realise now that I gave my girls way too much, and should have disciplined them more, as I did my sons. I now have an excellent father/son relationship with my eldest son, who is 28, and I don't think he realised how much effort we put into them until he had a family of his own, with two children. When he rings me to have a "cry" on my shoulder, I just say "multiply that by three kids and 28 years". Karma is a wonderful thing. LOL.
Oh, do my girls have a doting daddy! They have him wrapped around their little fingers, lol! Seriously, they do. He's loathe to punish them at all, buys them tons of junk that I never would, holds them all evening, spoils them by letting them stay up late and eat junk I don't allow, gives in to their pleadings for almost everything - it's a real problem! They're daddy's girls and he's thrilled about it. But I have a sneaking suspicion we're going to pay the price for some of my husband's indulgences with the girls.
I can say the one thing he doesn't tolerate is them back-talking me. I really do appreciate his efforts to instill in them a little respect for their mother.
KimberlyAnn wrote: They're daddy's girls and he's thrilled about it. But I have a sneaking suspicion we're going to pay the price for some of my husband's indulgences with the girls. KA
As sure as night follows day, you will. Listen to a fool. The reason my sons turned out so much more responsible, and they have, is because I raised them with stern discipline. The three of them became boxers, one a professional boxer, and I often joke that when they practiced they probably had an image of me to spar with. LOL. They now have the utmost respect for me. Can't, unfortunately, say the same for the girls.
KimberlyAnn wrote:I can say the one thing he doesn't tolerate is them back-talking me. I really do appreciate his efforts to instill in them a little respect for their mother.
KA
That is something my father never tolerated either. I had exceptionally good and devoted parents. Together for 47 years.
Bond...James Bond wrote:There's no way I'm having kids.....I think I'll neuter myself right now.....
Bond, I'll be the heretic here and say that's a wise decision. I really love my children, and would defend them to the death. But it's been a very hard slog, and at nearly 53 I'm still carrying the burdens. When I retire to my cottage, and peace, I will love them even more. :) (The grandkids, three in all, I can hand back at the end of the day.)
Yeah.....I really don't have the urge to procreate or something.....I like kids....I just don't want to have to deal with them. I guess my non-religious nature of late makes me feel like "raising up seed" isn't a life goal or something that I should do during my life. I like the free life to be honest.
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
Ray A wrote:I had exceptionally good and devoted parents. Together for 47 years.
I thought you said you were 53.
Bond...James Bond wrote:Yeah.....I really don't have the urge to procreate or something.....I like kids....I just don't want to have to deal with them. I guess my non-religious nature of late makes me feel like "raising up seed" isn't a life goal or something that I should do during my life. I like the free life to be honest.
I'm with you 100%. My only regret with getting a vasectomy is that I didn't get it done sooner.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
Bond...James Bond wrote: Yeah.....I really don't have the urge to procreate or something.....I like kids....I just don't want to have to deal with them. I guess my non-religious nature of late makes me feel like "raising up seed" isn't a life goal or something that I should do during my life. I like the free life to be honest.
My niece was the same way - vowed she would never have kids. Now she has had one. The difference happens when you meet someone you really love. You can't help but wonder what part of you and her would look like, and heaven forbid another man finding out and not you. As the song goes, "Love changes everything". So never say "never".
Bond...James Bond wrote: Yeah.....I really don't have the urge to procreate or something.....I like kids....I just don't want to have to deal with them. I guess my non-religious nature of late makes me feel like "raising up seed" isn't a life goal or something that I should do during my life. I like the free life to be honest.
My niece was the same way - vowed she would never have kids. Now she has had one. The difference happens when you meet someone you really love. You can't help but wonder what part of you and her would look like, and heaven forbid another man finding out and not you. As the song goes, "Love changes everything". So never say "never".
Lol....yeah...not with my luck and women.
Ray can't you go back to being the crazy guy who curses and stuff? I'm starting to like you again ;)
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
Ray A wrote:I had exceptionally good and devoted parents. Together for 47 years.
I thought you said you were 53.
Shades, I am 53 in September. September 3rd to be exact. My parents were married in 1930, I was born in 1954. My mother, married at age 19, was born in 1911. My father (born 1905) died in 1987. You work it out.
Bond...James Bond wrote:There's no way I'm having kids.....I think I'll neuter myself right now.....
Bond, I'll be the heretic here and say that's a wise decision. I really love my children, and would defend them to the death. But it's been a very hard slog, and at nearly 53 I'm still carrying the burdens. When I retire to my cottage, and peace, I will love them even more. :) (The grandkids, three in all, I can hand back at the end of the day.)
Yeah.....I really don't have the urge to procreate or something.....I like kids....I just don't want to have to deal with them. I guess my non-religious nature of late makes me feel like "raising up seed" isn't a life goal or something that I should do during my life. I like the free life to be honest.
You're still young, Bond. It's not like you have to have kids tomorrow. Frankly, from my conversations with you, I think you would be a good Dad. ;)
What I would encourage you to do is get your school done now, while you're single, and get your career established, because once you DO have kids, there's no turning back.
I don't regret having kids, but I do regret the timing.
I'm enjoying raising my 3 year old MUCH more than I enjoyed raising my teen aged daughters. When I had the girls I was still a kid myself....24. I still had a lot to learn about myself. Having my son when I was 40 was a completely different experience, both emotionally and financially.