Big Love is BAAAACCKK!!!

[_Blixa]

Hey, there was even Nikki/Bill action, too. The writers must have heard us griping about not enough skin!

Poor ben indeed - and I appreciated how the writers had him think "marriage" was the solution. I've been hoping that they would find a way to work in the fact that many LDS marry far too young and too fast simply due to sexual frustration.

And how did you like Barb's reaction to Ben stating "no big deal" if he finds out his gf is not "the one", he'll just get wife number two! I interpreted her reaction to be not only the realization that this was how her children were interpreting her situation, but that it could possibly really be the interpretation of her situation.

I know! I felt that way too.

I thought this episode had it all: humor, action, suspense, sex, and serious thoughts about the culture of polygamy/Mormonism.

Ewww...the Bishop asking after Barb's family and offering his "priesthood" services...*shudder*

[_Bond...James Bond]

Episode 2.8 Thoughts

Crikey!!! Another amazing episode....let's get right to the points.

1) Ben finally gets caught for acting like a teenager (what did his parent's expect).....and of course he gets ratted out by the Bishop (anyone else think he should have caught some crap for ratting Benny out). Anyone not see this coming? So Ben loses his girlfriend, gets railroaded by the parents, but he gets the Priesthood....so it's all supposed to be good??? WTF? And let's remember who he's getting the shaft from....

2) His parents (all 4 of them are acting like children)....."Go to your Room Bill"....>WTF? Honestly......these people are so crazy that they're putting me off of Jennifer Goodwin's ass.....well almost....

3) Did I mention Margene's ass? This show definitely makes up for the past few episodes of no skin.....but all this family infighting is irritating. Come on Bill......man up and screw your wives. There have been greater tragedies in the world than having to please your harem. Oh course Barb is being a total control freak.....and Nikki is of course the total liar.....and Margene still acts like a 12 year old playing grown up "house".....Jeez.

4) Anyone else sad Roman got shot??? Yeah....he's surviving. But I thought Alby was getting run out of town. Is he back in Roman's good graces now? I love the Green hitwomen......Prairie Pride outfits are quickly replacing fedoras and trenchcoats as the look of a a cold hearted killer.

5) Back to Benny......where the heck does Bill get off playing the morality card with all his nefarious dealings with the Greens and Roman? He acts totally fine with being two steps away from being a total crook.

6) The Boston cop.....she expressed wonderfully the feelings of everyone outside of Utah. Mormons/polygamists/FLDS are all the same in most of our minds. They're all screwed up.....and I don't feel sorry if they're descendents get arrested for polygamy just because great grand pappy had eight wives.

7) Apparently Nikki doesn't like oral.......who thinks she's coming out as a robot at some point? She's so uptight I need a massage after watching any of her scenes.

8) Barb....you crazy woman. I hope you feel a little guilty for...."7 nights a week, then 3 1/2 nights a week, then 2 and change....." and also for destroying Benny sex life......she's totally becoming Boss Lady.

9) Anyone else realize how stupid these people are at conducting criminal enterprise when Frank looks like a genius?

10) These are the reasons we put our money in the bank Lois rather than in the pea cans. Didn't you think someone would get hungry at some point and would open a can....or that canned peas are a bit heavier than paper money....moron

11) No exmo Sara boyfriend!!! Yiphe!! Of course next episode.......

12) Where's Rhonda.....she tells Barb to piss off (which I totally think she should at this point) and then nothing for two episodes?

13) Please either get this Weber Gaming thing over with.....not to mention the sara boyfriend saga......not to mention the Bill's Uncle saga......but more Roman!

[_Blixa]

."Go to your Room Bill"....>WTF?

Ah come on, guy, laugh a little! This one's going right into my marital playbook!

Anyone else sad Roman got shot??? Yeah....he's surviving.

Actually, I kind of was sorry. I love homemade butterscotch, too. I suspect that diner scene was filmed in California, but it looks a lot like the diner in Cedar City my Dad took me to for breakfast last year---yum. Biscuits and white gravy...

Seriously, though, Roman has an increasing gravitas, and I can't wait for the Blood Atonement plot to start advancing.

But I thought Alby was getting run out of town. Is he back in Roman's good graces now?

So glad he didn't. He's grown on me.

I love the Green hitwomen

Are you in/from SLC, Bond? Even if you are, you're too young to remember the hitwomen Ervel LaBaron sent to snuff out rival Rulon Allred in the late 70's. Those were the days...

Back to Benny......where the heck does Bill get off playing the morality card with all his nefarious dealings with the Greens and Roman? He acts totally fine with being two steps away from being a total crook.

That's because to Mormons "morality" begins and ends with sex.

The Boston cop

Somebody should have asked Officer Self-Righteous about her state governor...

[_Bond...James Bond]

Ah come on, guy, laugh a little! This one's going right into my marital playbook!

Yeah I laughted (a little)....but do married people act like this? Go to your room? >>I'm never getting married (says the future father of 12).....

Are you in/from SLC, Bond? Even if you are, you're too young to remember the hitwomen Ervel LaBaron sent to snuff out rival Rulon Allred in the late 70's. Those were the days...

God no....if I was from Salt Lake I'd eat 11 DQ Blizzards in an attempt to permanently freeze my brain.

Ervel? Rulon? Nothing says inbred like a dumbass name.......were do they get these names? Are they from a chronology in the missing 116 Pages?

That's because to Mormons "morality" begins and ends with sex.

It certainly appears that way with Bill and Roman's Godfather like attempts to make money.....

Somebody should have asked Officer Self-Righteous about her state governor...

She probably voted for the other guy.....

Other notes that popped into my mind:

1) Nikki takes the cake as biggest hypocrite in history (with apologies to Liz, harmony, Jason, etc..;) with her "sex is for procreation" moment......anyone remember the birth control?

2) Once again we completely forget that Bill has 5 other kids.....when are they going to grow up (in the TV world we all know they can go from 1 to 13 in 6 months...) and start irritating their parents with premarital sex/marijuana smoking/getting tickets/etc?

[_Blixa]

Well the Crime Library website writers lay it on a bit thick, but I think it's warranted:

"Ervil LeBaron grimaced as he looked down at the body of his pregnant daughter in the trunk of his car. Rebecca's neck was chafed raw from the rope her killers had used to strangle her, and a stream of blood had dripped from her nose onto the mat under her head. He slammed the trunk shut.

The green-and-white Ford LTD was new, and it was the spiffiest car Ervil had ever owned. Not only had his daughter's blood soiled his precious car, it was also an indication of sloppy work by the murderers -- whom he'd contracted.

"That's inexcusable!" he roared at his goons. "It's just stupidity. We can't have any more of it."
Ervil LeBaron had his daughter killed because God told him to do it. God had told the fundamentalist Mormon to do a lot of peculiar things over the years, and Ervil always obeyed without question.

When the Almighty commanded him to "be fruitful and multiply," Ervil took 13 wives and sired over 50 children.
When God told Ervil to kill, he did that too. His followers slashed a bloody trail across Mexico and the American Southwest that left 25 to 30 people dead. Among the victims were Ervil's wives, his brother, former members of his church, leaders of rival polygamous clans, and his 17-year-old pregnant daughter Becky.

Even after Ervil LeBaron died in a jail cell in 1981, the violence didn't stop. He left behind a long hit list, and his children picked up his bloody mantle, hunting down their father's enemies far and wide and eliminating them.
To this day, former members of the LeBaron cult whose names are on that list are still in hiding."

You can read the rest here

[_barrelomonkeys]

Well the Crime Library website writers lay it on a bit thick, but I think it's warranted:

"Ervil LeBaron grimaced as he looked down at the body of his pregnant daughter in the trunk of his car. Rebecca's neck was chafed raw from the rope her killers had used to strangle her, and a stream of blood had dripped from her nose onto the mat under her head. He slammed the trunk shut.

The green-and-white Ford LTD was new, and it was the spiffiest car Ervil had ever owned. Not only had his daughter's blood soiled his precious car, it was also an indication of sloppy work by the murderers -- whom he'd contracted.

"That's inexcusable!" he roared at his goons. "It's just stupidity. We can't have any more of it."
Ervil LeBaron had his daughter killed because God told him to do it. God had told the fundamentalist Mormon to do a lot of peculiar things over the years, and Ervil always obeyed without question.

When the Almighty commanded him to "be fruitful and multiply," Ervil took 13 wives and sired over 50 children.
When God told Ervil to kill, he did that too. His followers slashed a bloody trail across Mexico and the American Southwest that left 25 to 30 people dead. Among the victims were Ervil's wives, his brother, former members of his church, leaders of rival polygamous clans, and his 17-year-old pregnant daughter Becky.

Even after Ervil LeBaron died in a jail cell in 1981, the violence didn't stop. He left behind a long hit list, and his children picked up his bloody mantle, hunting down their father's enemies far and wide and eliminating them.
To this day, former members of the LeBaron cult whose names are on that list are still in hiding."

You can read the rest here

I love the crime library. A few months ago I discovered it and spent weeks reading about cannibals and wackos.

[_mocnarf]

For all you Big Love fans.... this forum is for you: http://www.bigloveboards.com/

[_Bond...James Bond]

Episode 2.9 Thoughts:

OMG!!! Is it possible for this show to get any more cooler....yeah polygamy=sucks....but this story=great!!! Right to the points:

1) I want/demand a spinoff show that's nothing but Nicki playing Bingo!!!

2) Margene was/is? a spanker...just when I thought she couldn't get any hotter.....if we learn she appeared in any porn films or experimented with lesbianism as a youngster....I just might spontaneously combust.

3) Barb--not ruling as much. When is she just going to go back to the LDS Church....it's obvious she still believes in most of that stuff...not to mention she wants to hamstring her own daughters spiritual journey on the basis of some hearsay she got from Bill's lying mother.....honestly if there was a list of people "not to trust anything they say" it would go:

1) Lois
2) Lois again
3) Satan
4) Hitler
5) Osama Bin Ladin
6) Nicki
7) Frank
8) Nicki again
9) George Bush
10) Any lawyer

Can somebody mail Barb this list.....it might be useful. Thanks.

4) I can't believe I waited till Point 4 till I mentioned Alby and his Seer Stone work.....good times. I was giggling like a 13 year huffing fumes when his mom jumped up to bear her testimony. But I'm glad Alby's storyline is going again.....I just hope he doesn't smother his dad with a pillow to make his promotion permanent.

5) Ben trying to be a priesthood holder and give Margene orders....what a joke. Margene should have paddled his ass right there in Aisle 6.

6) Roman getting fever crazy and singing some dirty ditty.....totally awesome.

7) Nicki stealing Margene's freezer, and then running it over three times with a rented truck.....totally awesomer.

8) Nicki sneaking into the office and taking the money.....totally awesomest (and a total switch...I thought she was going to sneak in and visit her father).

9) The only nudity we got was on a slot machine screen....but we did finally see the Hendricksons go to a casino (which is what I've wanted for many episodes.....) More good times

10) Rhonda is the best at PR in history.........she's been playing everyone like a Harp from Hell. By next season she'll be doing an NBC pilot of Mormon Friends....complete with Jon Heder as Joey and Donny Osmond as the "Tom Selleck" man candy boyfriend of one of the gals.

11) Nicki......totally ruled this episode. I actually thought she cared for a while....then I realized she was just being her same mean self.

12) Sara/exmo boyfriend plotline....can't she dump that guy and move in with someone who isn't a total dork and will tap that ass (like.....nevermind)

13) Too many one-liners to mention....just brilliantly funny dialogue this whole episode. Milk shot out of my nipples when Nicki said that line about men getting breast enlargements so they can nurse....

14) Glad to see this Weber Gaming storyline being wrapped up....finally

15) Margene finally showing signs of her pregnancy.....she's been pregnant for what about 2 years now?

16) As much as they talk about family and taking a vote....I knew Bill was going to go ahead and do whatever the hell he wanted.

Did I miss anything???

[_Blixa]

Nobody in my house could understand why I flipped out so much over this episode. I was yelling, "Head in the hat! Head in the hat! Blood Atonement, Blood Atonement, Head in the Hat!" like it was school cheer.

Meanwhile, DH was saying, "wait a minute, shut up, why's he, what's he doing with that hat? Shut up! What's he putting in it? A rock?!!?? Joseph Smith put rocks in a hat????"

And if that alone wasn't good enough, what about Alby "reading" his revelation bit by bit whilst it was being transcribed (again ala Joseph Smith), being corrected when he repeated a sentence slightly differently (again, a hint at Smith) and the capstone of the scene? Adaleen rising up and testifying that she saw Alby's face turn into Roman's and then into Joseph Smith's!! The very same trick Brigham Young pulled to clinch his taking control of "the church!"

I say Mormon History Association award for this episode.

(all the other stuff was good, too)

[_beastie]

Yeah, it was great, although I couldn't really hear Roman's ditty.

But it did make me wonder - do fundamentalist Mormons receive revelations by sticking their heads in a hat?

Following up on one thing - I think the reason Barb wants Sarah to go back to the Mormon church is because she really doesn't want her to grow up and become polygamous. I think Ben's summary of how he understood polygamy (it's ok if his first wife doesn't turn out to be "the one", and he falls in love with someone else, he'll just marry her as number two) really shook her up. For her to reach out to the man who accused Bill of molesting their children (that was the insinuation at least) when she was so angry at him for doing so indicates some level of desperation to get Sarah out of the lifestyle. It is also a betrayal of Bill.