More Coffee lies...

[_Dr. Shades]

I for one am glad for Pumplehoober's detective skills with regard to Mr. Coffee. If I'm wrong about something, I'd prefer it to be brought to my attention rather than continue to be wrong.

Mr. Coffee, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt one last time:

1. How long had your wife and you been married when your first son was born?
2. What was your rank when you got out of the Marine Corps?

[_Jersey Girl]

I for one am glad for Pumplehoober's detective skills with regard to Mr. Coffee. If I'm wrong about something, I'd prefer it to be brought to my attention rather than continue to be wrong.

Mr. Coffee, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt one last time:

1. How long had your wife and you been married when your first son was born?
2. What was your rank when you got out of the Marine Corps?

You are? Would you be glad for someone's "detective skills" if the information they were posting were about you and your family? On a blog for example? I think not, infact I know not.

Editing to add more: Shades as I stated in an old post on one of these "get coffee" threads, I couldn't care less if he's a card carrying lunatic. What is the purpose of this "outing" business? Nothing has been posted here that "outs" coffee as anything more than the anonymous poster he wishes to be...and that most of us wish to be, unless you're truly gullible and don't read between the lines.

My objection here isn't a support of coffee, per se, it's about principle. This type of "outing" and the salivating over it is truly obnoxious, juvenile and lends a "creep factor" to a board.

If anyone was upset about the so called "death threat" they should have brought it to you and I think it likely was brought to you. If it was inappropriate then you, as admin, should have dealt with it. Instead, you accepted coffee's apology as an end to it.

Great.

Now, what about the other things that have been posted here from other web sites or by coffee himself?

I recall that you questioned him on passing the drug screening as a new enlistee. What is so mysterious about that? If a person wants to pass a drug screening they simply clean out their system and go take the tests like people do regularly to pass a drug screen for employment. No rocket science involved.

What about the updating the other profile? Is there REALLY a way to determine what was updated and what was not based on a date of updating?

For Pete sakes, Doc, this is nothing more than spin on Stalkers part. Are we going to hold court on coffee? Are we going to somehow "make" him tell us what he updated and tell me, what would be the point of that? Would it prove anything?

What about the death of his son? Are you all willing to harrass someone who may have indeed lost a son to death? Should we "demand" that coffee post his son's obit and then attack THAT? Shall we needle him about cause of death? Ask him to defend his own kids death? Should he post a copy of the death certificate?

What the hell goes on in the minds of people who think this kind of stuff is remotely acceptable transmission on a message board and don't bring up the "death threat" in response to that because if you had a problem with it you had a chance to deal with it and chose to let it slide with an apology.

What if coffee is lying? Is there a problem with that? Is it our place as other anonymous posters to pump an anonymous guy for information and to what end?

I thought you were opposed to the Z trolls.
I thought you were opposed to Mr. Itchy.
I thought you were oppposed to Julianns demands for emails and such from KG

And yet here, you allow this Stalker and also Scratch to do exactly the same thing. Infact, Scratch precipitated the Z trolls/Itchy. What is with the mob mentality around these LDS boards? You tell me, Doc. Is it only wrong when it's happening to you or some other posters who is more popular or been around longer than a "coffee"?

The crap that Stalker is posting is coming from outside this board about an anonymous poster just like Itchy was doing to people. And when a troll did that on Z and on this board, you couldn't act fast enough!

I call BS on this, Doc. Total BS.

[_Pumplehoober]

As to whether Coffee was lying or not, I once again don't care. As to what he contributed I also made no comment. Pumplehoober is too foolish not to have realized that. I think I'm beginning to see a patter . . .

You will not answer about Coffee because he has contributed to the board, at least nothing intellectually worthwhile. He has contributed derogatory statements about Mormons, however, which is really the point of the board. Unfortunately this is not something you can defend, so you remain silent.

Alright, perhaps I should stop throwing his condescending boast back at him. It's not like I really care one way or the other. I'm just not particularly fond of having him belittle those whom I know to be intelligent posters such as Jersey Girl, you (Gad), or Liz (among others). The only person he may have tagged right is myself. I guess I was just good at snowing my math/engineering professors into thinking I knew the material. Either that or electrical engineering is something any old fool can do.

Most of your posters are idiots, and you know it. Consider Liz's defense of your board…

“This is the purpose of the board...taken from the Home Page:”

http://mormondiscussions.com/discuss/vi ... 750a254be8

This was a stupid statement, it was poor reasoning, but this was not important. What was important was defense of the board, not actually decent argumentation and logical statements. What Liz said was stupid, she reacted without engaging her brain, but pointing this out is taboo. You are not interested in reality, but perpetuating the illusion of intellectual superiority to Mormons.

[_Pumplehoober]

Well of course not..

Can you make a list of people who you think can reason? Would the list be greater than a single person(yourself)? If so, would anyone on the list have ever disagreed with you on anything?

I could easily make such a list, but it is irrelevant to this board. Asbestos' comment…

“After all how much should a guy care who has to go around condmening someone for being a braggart while yet boasting his own intelligence--a boast largely accomplished by attacking the intelligence of everyone else?”

…is as stupid as the rest.

You, Asbestos, or anyone else can call me a braggart all you like, but at the end of the day it is untrue. I am not bragging at all, which is readily apparent because I could not care less if you believe me or not. I am completely indifferent to your opinions of my intellectual abilities, just as I am indifferent to your belief in Liz's, LSD's, or Kevin's lack of intelligence. I know the truth, and I do not need that recognized by anyone here. I do not need anyone here to acknowledge that I am smart or not, I could not care less what any of you really believes.

Coffee lied to you all. You fell for it. You were stupid. His stories were vapid and imbecilic, but you (plural) lapped it up because you lacked the ability to critically consider the facts. This is reality, and at the end of the day it is real whether or not you accept it as true.

At the end of the day the fact is, I will not lie about any of it. I have no reason to lie about Coffee; I have no reason to lie about myself. Believe as you wish, but your belief does not change reality.

[_asbestosman]

You are not interested in reality, but perpetuating the illusion of intellectual superiority to Mormons.

Psst. Genius boy. I am a Mormon.

Unfortunately this is not something you can defend, so you remain silent.

Might wanna get your crystal ball cleaned because your clairvoyance stinks. You are wrong about why I remain silent on Coffee. I was silent because my thoughts on Coffee are irrelavent to the discussion about whether it matters if he is a punk kid or Marine in his late 30's. You love to sidetrack the discussion. Is it any wonder I tried to leave out irrelavent details?

[_Pumplehoober]

Nothing has been posted here that "outs" coffee as anything more than the anonymous poster he wishes to be...and that most of us wish to be, unless you're truly gullible and don't read between the lines.

And you prove that you are an idiot. Coffee is not an Anonymous poster. He claims to be David Webb. He claims to have been a Marine, have a dead son, is wealthy, won a Bronze Star, watch the Rwandan genocide, served in Kosovo, served in Somalia, suffer from PTSD, etc…

His lies have been spread across cyberspace. If he is who he says he is, then he is not anonymous. Did anyone look into his bank account? Did someone perform a background search on him? Was anything about him privately investigated, or were his statements, made publicly, taken and considered with reference to known fact (such as winter climate in Iceland, or dates he has claimed for births).

How is his anonymity challenged when all of his statements were publicly made? He created a public persona, he gloried in it, and it was all a lie.

My objection here isn't a support of coffee, per se, it's about principle. This type of "outing" and the salivating over it is truly obnoxious, juvenile and lends a "creep factor" to a board.

You moron, no one “outed” Coffee, but Coffee. He made all of these statements publicly and he heartily endorsed them. He wanted to make them. Nothing was drug from him. Unfortunately for you, and fortunately for him, no one actually critically considered what he said until me.

I recall that you questioned him on passing the drug screening as a new enlistee. What is so mysterious about that? If a person wants to pass a drug screening they simply clean out their system and go take the tests like people do regularly to pass a drug screen for employment. No rocket science involved.

The Marines pride themselves on their selectivity and elite nature. For Coffee to glorify his service, fake though it may have been, and then claim he lied to get in is the grossest hypocrisy.

What about the updating the other profile? Is there REALLY a way to determine what was updated and what was not based on a date of updating?

The dates and claims from this website and the other completely contradict. There he was older than he claims here, and there his sons were younger than he claims here. Are you really claiming that Coffee does not know his or his fake sons' ages?

For Pete sakes, Doc, this is nothing more than spin on Stalkers part.

It is not spin. It is fact. He claimed two different ages for himself and his fake children on two different websites. This contradiction will not go away because you are not intelligent.

What about the death of his son? Are you all willing to harrass someone who may have indeed lost a son to death?

Are you really going to assert that because he claims something horrible happened to him, he must be believed? If someone claims you molested them are you going to leave the accusation unquestioned because of the horrible nature of the accusation?

Should we "demand" that coffee post his son's obit and then attack THAT? Shall we needle him about cause of death? Ask him to defend his own kids death? Should he post a copy of the death certificate?

This would not be necessary if his claimed son was not 4-5 years younger on another board. Unfortunately Coffee is stupid and could not keep his lies straight.

What if coffee is lying? Is there a problem with that? Is it our place as other anonymous posters to pump an anonymous guy for information and to what end?

Well, I suppose that is the best statement of all. So what if he is lying? Who cares? You have got to be kidding.

[_Jersey Girl]

The Mayo Clinic has this to say (not to be confused with the condiment):

Pathological narcissism

The other end of the continuum — narcissistic personality disorder — is a persistent inability to establish a realistic, stable self-image, therefore creating an overdependence on others to regulate their self-esteem. This unrealistic self-image affects how people with this disorder behave and interact with others.

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder may include:

* Grandiose sense of one's own abilities or achievements
* Fantasies about having exceptional power, attractiveness or success
* Sense of belonging to an exclusive group of people who truly understand each other
* Need for constant praise
* Expectations of special treatment
* Exploitation of other people
* Lack of empathy for other people
* Envy of other people or a belief that you are the subject of other people's envy
* Haughty or arrogant behaviors

Individuals with narcissistic personality disorder may come across as conceited or snobbish. They often monopolize conversation. They may belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior. When they don't receive the special treatment to which they feel entitled, they may become very impatient or angry.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/narcissistic-personality-disorder/DS00652/DSECTION=2

[_Pumplehoober]

Psst. Genius boy. I am a Mormon.

Well you say so, so it simply must be true.

[_Pumplehoober]

The Mayo Clinic has this to say (not to be confused with the condiment):

Again nothing intelligent to say.

[_asbestosman]

Psst. Genius boy. I am a Mormon.

Well you say so, so it simply must be true.

Indeed, for you have more boy than man about you.