Question for Dr. Peterson and any other Apologist from MAD

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_William Schryver
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barrelomonkeys wrote:I recall one time I was trying to soothe things over with one poster (this was after a thread was going on about how racist Southerners were) and told him I apologize, and was being completely sincere! I immediately felt guilty for all and any offense I had given, sent a goody basket through an online service to my local LDS mission and made sure I tried to make amends!

The poster ridiculed me and told me essentially, "yah, right ." Doubted the sincerity of my apology and continued to be rude. That level of assumed hostility to anyone not LDS was something I felt very often.

One thing that occurs to me is that I certainly don't pay attention to anymore than probably 5% of the threads on either of these boards. I'm drawn to where my interests lie. As a result, I'm certainly not in a position to judge what goes on everywhere on either board. It could very well be that there are some real a**holes on the MAD board of whom I am simply not aware. I accept that as a real possibility. There are also several times more posters there than there are here. I'm sure there are posters there that I have never read, or very rarely read, whereas I'm aware of most of the posters who frequent this board -- even though I only check this board out every once in a while.

So, I accept as true your statement that there are some real jerks on the MAD board. I just haven't run into them in my travels. And I don't believe that they are that common over there, since the board is quite heavily moderated against jerks, and even TBM jerks have been kicked off or censured. In fact, there are a good number of posters on my "ignore" list over there.

The bottom line is that I don't really intend to defend MAD and condemn MDB. They just are what they are. They cater to different audiences, and there is only a slender overlap between the two spheres.
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I just wish we could all love one another. I don't like the thought of any Latter-Day Saint being angry. Perhaps even some of our own have not their election ratified by the holy spirit of promise. For those few for whom this might be a problem, I suggest a daily study of the Book of Mormon. I also suggest a children's edition of the Bible to sit handsomely on the bookshelf. I read my children's Bible at night while I sip a cup of milk. I find this little ritual relaxes my mind from the pressures of my calling. It also fortifies my soul against the suggestions of the advesary. Sometimes my mind burns in strange ways, and I know this is the adversary, but yet I feel so helpless. Oh --- anyways, I have no ill feelings toward anyone. All are welcome to contact my secretary and make an appointment for a visit. The door to my office is open.
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Post by _Phaedrus Ut »

In my non-scientific personal assessment Dan Peterson is generally non attacking in the majority of the interactions I read. In the times he seems to get miffed he generally only gives 10% back of what he takes(in my opinion).

That guy must have some seriously thick skin to put up with all the BS that's directed his way.


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Phaedrus Ut wrote:That guy must have some seriously thick skin to put up with all the BS that's directed his way.

Oh come on, he's not that fat

(I am ridiculing the stereotype of Dr. Peterson, not his actual body size whatever it may or may not be).
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Will,

If the mods do such a good job getting rid of believing a**holes, why do you have so many people on your ignore list?

Anyone who thinks that Pahoran is not as malicious as the worst exmormon poster is just not paying attention.
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William Schryver wrote:So, I accept as true your statement that there are some real jerks on the MAD board. I just haven't run into them in my travels.


Um.....I'm assuming you've read the poster Pahoran right?
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William Schryver wrote: So, I accept as true your statement that there are some real jerks on the MAD board. I just haven't run into them in my travels. And I don't believe that they are that common over there, since the board is quite heavily moderated against jerks, and even TBM jerks have been kicked off or censured. In fact, there are a good number of posters on my "ignore" list over there.


You informed me that I was on your ignore list at MAD two weeks ago. I thought that rather hurtful so I posted a few lines of wisdom from the Desiderata, they of course were immediately removed by a mod. I have been insulted both on this board and MAD. My insulters on both boards were only being true to form, since they are nasty to many others as well. Fortunately these are the only two boards were that has occured.
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beastie wrote:Will,

If the mods do such a good job getting rid of believing a**holes, why do you have so many people on your ignore list?

Anyone who thinks that Pahoran is not as malicious as the worst exmormon poster is just not paying attention.

I don't put people on my ignore list for being jerks. I only put people on the list who rarely have anything substantive to say.

Moksha:
You informed me that I was on your ignore list at MAD two weeks ago. I thought that rather hurtful so I posted a few lines of wisdom from the Desiderata, they of course were immediately removed by a mod. I have been insulted both on this board and MAD. My insulters on both boards were only being true to form, since they are nasty to many others as well. Fortunately these are the only two boards were that has occured.

I put you on my list because, frankly, all you usually do is make some pithy little remark that seldom touches upon the issue of the thread. Sometimes they're clever, but more often than not they're just insipid.

That said, I will admit that when you try to say something substantive, you come across as quite thoughtful and intelligent. On occasion I have been very impressed with what you have to say. I just get the impression that you're usually not very interested in really engaging in serious discussion.

As far as Pahoran is concerned, I don't view him as malicious. At least not very often, and certainly nowhere near the kind of outrages you can see at RfM, and even sometimes here. But Pahoran doesn't lob marshmallows, he's hard ball all the way. He'll smack you coming and going. He's not too concerned with niceties and political correctness. Sometimes he even makes me laugh. I'd go to war with a guy like Pahoran and be glad to have him next to me on the battlefield. He shoots to kill. And I've got no problem with that.

I think it's hilarious that the same people that get all bothered about Pahoran will still welcome Potty-mouth Porter and Jercury with open arms. To each his own, I suppose.
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William Schryver wrote:I don't put people on my ignore list for being jerks. I only put people on the list who rarely have anything substantive to say.

How rarely? Somehow I suspect I'm on it, not that I'd feel offended. Life is what it is (and I is what I is) and I don't lose much sleep over it.
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asbestosman wrote:
William Schryver wrote:I don't put people on my ignore list for being jerks. I only put people on the list who rarely have anything substantive to say.

How rarely? Somehow I suspect I'm on it, not that I'd feel offended. Life is what it is (and I is what I is) and I don't lose much sleep over it.

No. You are not.

And Moksha made me feel bad, so I took him off it, too. Can you feel the love?
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