Blixa wrote:I still get a kick outta statements like this:
''...was informed he was no longer a church member, could not enjoy any membership privileges, including the wearing of temple garments and the payment of tithes and offerings.”
I have to admit...I chuckled at this one, myself.
You don't have to wear uncomfortable Church-prescribed underwear and you get a 10% instant raise....
The Nehor wrote: I think his metaphor is a little overblown. In 1939 Nazi Germany....
Absolutely right. I doubt any glass or windows were broken that night the various brothers were visited by the Church representatives. Definitely not Kristallnacht.
The Nehor wrote:I've only heard of it being announced before when an individual is actively preaching against the Church. You don't get the luxury of quietly leaving the Church under those circumstances.
Why do we want false teachers shunned? Check out the Bible or Book of Mormon some time Merc. If he went quietly away he wouldn't be 'shunned'. Glad to hear that my Church must be taken down by 'any means necessary'. I now know to duck if I see you wandering down my street with a shotgun.
False teachers. Heh.
What was he teaching that was false?
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Dr. Shades wrote:In the "Comments" section, Mr. Lamborn himself made the following comment:
These latest comments are spot-on. If the LDS church is serious about mainstreaming, these 'Gestapo' tactics really need to be eliminated. It is a weak organization that needs to be 'protected' from facts and alternate opinions.
As with most news stories, what wasn't told is actually more interesting. When I first confronted my bishop about my findings and questions, he immediately went into 'damage control' mode. I mentioned in confidentiality that I had been discussing the issues with my brothers. The following week, my bishop had contacted the bishops of ALL my brothers, and they each received a visit from the 'Men In Black'. I honestly felt I was in 1939 Nazi Germany. Real life is stranger than fiction!
Lyndon Lamborn
Who are these "Men in Black" that visited his brothers? Their bishops or home teachers, I assume? If it was anyone other than them, what did they say, I wonder?
I covered one of the brothers. We came bearing green jello and funeral potatos laced with depressants. Luckily in this case the Danites did not see serious dissension and no terminations were made. Their phones are bugged of course though.
I don't see anything sinister here. His brothers were all visited. That's because they care about them. If I found out my brother was exposed to a lot of anti-Mormon material from any source I'd want to talk it out with him. 'Damage Control Mode' doesn't sound so bad when you consider the man in question was actively seeking to damage people's testimonies. I think his metaphor is a little overblown. In 1939 Nazi Germany you had a tendency to get shot not visited by people wearing suits with a lesson out of a religious magazine.
Whoop it up dickhead. For his next act Nehor will be making light of the stazi.
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Mine was announced at Priesthood meeting, but that was back in 1981 when they did those things. I don't know why they don't do it now. I hear they stopped it. Maybe back then it was part of the frontier common law. Prepare for a new post.
thestyleguy wrote:Mine was announced at Priesthood meeting, but that was back in 1981 when they did those things. I don't know why they don't do it now. I hear they stopped it. Maybe back then it was part of the frontier common law. Prepare for a new post.
Yeah, they used to do that. They announced a girl's excommunication in my freshman ward at BYU. I haven't heard of such things in a long time.
thestyleguy wrote:Mine was announced at Priesthood meeting, but that was back in 1981 when they did those things. I don't know why they don't do it now. I hear they stopped it. Maybe back then it was part of the frontier common law. Prepare for a new post.
Yeah, they used to do that. They announced a girl's excommunication in my freshman ward at BYU. I haven't heard of such things in a long time.
We can leave the church but they won't leave us alone.
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Pokatator wrote:Except he wasn't exposed to anything "anti-Mormon", he was being exposed to the truth. Just how do you damage someone's testimony with the truth?
truth and the church, boy can I write on that: it always seemed wierd to me that I, as a nineteen year old would be excommunicate for somethings that recently occured in my life when I was being honest about them. The fear factor actually comes back and bites the Church in the butt because they have so many young men blessing the sacrament or speaking in sacrament - likely thousands every sunday - who did the same thing but won't say anything because they create scenereos in their mind of how their parents will act or how ward members will treat them. Anti-truth-mormons (those who do not tell the truth) hold callings, bless the sacrament and give talks every sunday. These people can't handle the truth in many ways.
thestyleguy wrote:Mine was announced at Priesthood meeting, but that was back in 1981 when they did those things. I don't know why they don't do it now. I hear they stopped it. Maybe back then it was part of the frontier common law. Prepare for a new post.
Yeah, they used to do that. They announced a girl's excommunication in my freshman ward at BYU. I haven't heard of such things in a long time.
well, LDS history will tell you when things start getting bad that they start striking back in wierd ways.
Edit in: sorry, I didn't read the post well. I thought they recently did that but am glad if they stopped it. The real sad thing was that my Dad had left the home and my mom was very depressed. The court was on a tuesday night. I was going to ride my bike to the court but my friend asked me to go home teaching with him first so I did and he dropped me and my bike off at the stake center after. After the excommunication the Stake President didn't want me riding my bike home and pretty much said he was going to take me home. I couldn't tell my mom that night what happened. On Sunday I called the Stake President and asked if he could tell her and he said yes and then my Mom started freaking out about what the Stake President could be wanting to talk to her about and did I do something. When my Mom walked into the building, our nosey-motor-mouth neighbor came up to my mom and said she heard about my excommunication and was sorry to hear it, so that is how my Mom learned. Her husband who was in priesthood meeting must have called her and told her. my Mom basically laid in bed for six months she was so depressed.
thestyleguy wrote:Mine was announced at Priesthood meeting, but that was back in 1981 when they did those things. I don't know why they don't do it now. I hear they stopped it. Maybe back then it was part of the frontier common law. Prepare for a new post.
Yeah, they used to do that. They announced a girl's excommunication in my freshman ward at BYU. I haven't heard of such things in a long time.
We can leave the church but they won't leave us alone.
Ummm......STOP THE PERSECUTION!!!!!!!!! I'm no longer a member of the Church and they gave a 5 second announcement once that I was no longer a member. THOSE HEARTLESS BASTARDS!!!!!!!!! HOW COULD THEY????? I left the Church and they won't leave me alone. Why, just the thought that when I was excommunicated 20 years ago they mentioned my name once proves that I shall never, ever be free of their vile taint. My life is over.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo