Profound insights from MAD on Gay Marriage

[_KimberlyAnn]

I am a great admirer of science.

HA! Says the man who believes the Book of Mormon is true despite all contradictory evidence!

KA

[_Zoidberg]

I gave my weakest reference first, which happened to be the good doctor. No one's been able to show that he is some sort of 'fundie' by the way, they simply have ass-u-me-d guilt by association because he was quoted in a 'fundie' work. And then someone tried to counter that (probably because they were afraid to tackle the other references) with an article by a gay activist with no scientific background at all (as opposed to the doctor who has a degree in medicine).

Who has done that? Name the name, please.

I countered you fallacious statements about homosexuality being inherited (first of all, that was a complete strawman and the mere fact that you are unable to understand the difference between "inherited" and "intrauterine conditions" is telling enough) when you tried to use the Bearman article.

I countered your statement that you provided evidence for the health risks of lesbianism. I showed you that the IOM report you appealed to disagrees with you mightily about the causes of health risks in lesbians.

Renegade has addressed your inability to understand the difference between correlation and causation, such as with homosexuality and drug abuse.

guy has addressed your general inability to provide any compelling arguments or properly do research. What else has not been answered?

[_skippy the dead]

You still do s****y research.

You'll note he has not refuted my suspicions that the research is not even his own.

If it's surety you crave, I give none unless you can abide the CFR.

As I've mentioned twice before, I suspect that it's pre-canned "research" that was prepared by an anti-gay group,

And I suspect that your inability to find any counter references is evidenced here by your fear and paranoia

and I further suspect bcspace has read through the source documents (as opposed to summaries) himself.

Indeed I have read through many of the source documents. It's part of the reason I believe as I do. I am a great admirer of science.

And there we have it, folks. The research is not his own, he has not read it all, and I'm scared and paranoid (of what, I cannot imagine).

I feel no further need to respond to this agenda driven, borrowed, so-called research.

[_bcspace]

But since you did, I must say that I find you repulsively in violation of Romans 1:32.

Cool, thanks.

For the record, I find you to be a pretentious prick with a vastly overinflated opinion of himself, a lousy researcher, a flaming hypocrite who doesn't live up to the standards he demands of others, and a morally deficient homophobe.

Sticks and stones...Confirms my suspicion that you are not the scholar you claim to be. Isn't this what you guys accuse Juliann of doing? ...neener neener......lol

A real researcher doesn't decide the issue before doing the research.

Indeed. That is what the UN does.(A Global Warming reference).

I doubt seriously that's true of you. A fudie-type religious world view pre-determined your position on this issue, and you cherry picked the evidence to support your already reached conclusion (and yes, I'd bet all the $$ I have that the good proctologist is a evangelical homophobe with an agenda, much like you).

If I have cherry-picked, then you should be able to find some counter-vailing evidence. Lo and behold! You looked, and found only evidence to support my pov (so far).....lol

The article I cited is not the last word on the issue (though I suspect you'll trumpet it as such).

Your suspiscion is unfounded. If you knew me at all, you;d know that I give the example of Troy all the time in defense of science. That city was said to be mythological....until it was found.

Now, here's your final lesson on doing research: A good researcher looks to the "preponderance of evidence" before deciding the matter. A single study rarely decides the issue, there are almost certainly counter arguments and contrary evidence.

Agreed. I've looked. I have amassed a preponderance of evidence. I have carefully the evidence given by the other side. So far, the court of science rules against the homosexual lifestyle choice.

I'd love to see you try to navigate the peer review process. You'd be crucified.

A good debater never revels his supposed level of scholarship. Hard is the fall from on high. Besides, it's very bad scholarship and bad science to judge evidence based on the college degree of the one presenting it. In fact, it's not scholarship or science at all.

If you want to bandy about degrees and schooling, I think there is a good chance I've got you beat. Stick to the facts of the case please.

[_Zoidberg]

Besides, it's very bad scholarship and bad science to judge evidence based on the college degree of the one presenting it.

Says someone who just barely argued that a proctologist's opinion on lesbians is more valid than some imaginary gay activist's who doesn't have a medical degree. Not to mention that you have made up that activist to begin with. I have yet to see any evidence of anyone bringing up that gay activist, other than you.

[_bcspace]

I am a great admirer of science.

HA! Says the man who believes the Book of Mormon is true despite all contradictory evidence!

I'll bet you can't list any.

[_bcspace]

Besides, it's very bad scholarship and bad science to judge evidence based on the college degree of the one presenting it.

Says someone who just barely argued that a proctologist's opinion on lesbians is more valid than some imaginary gay activist's who doesn't have a medical degree.

LOL! I'll take that bet in a debate senario any day.

But on the 4th page of this thread, ROP gave this reference......

http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/lesbianhealth/a/DVFactsMyths_2.htm
"Lesbian relationships can’t have domestic violence, because they are both women."

Read the bio on the author, Kathy Belge. I'll still take a protologist over any nonimaginary gay activist in a debate senario any day.

Not to mention that you have made up that activist to begin with. I have yet to see any evidence of anyone bringing up that gay activist, other than you.

"Oh this is just toooooo good." Lazy research at it's height! But perhaps ROP will edit his or her post for you to make it all go away.

by the way, you seem to be so caught up with the fact that I quoted a proctologist that in defference to Seinfeld, I dub thee 'Assman'.

[_barrelomonkeys]

I certainly hope bcspace isn't on the clock somewhere today.

[Guest]

Besides, it's very bad scholarship and bad science to judge evidence based on the college degree of the one presenting it.

Says someone who just barely argued that a proctologist's opinion on lesbians is more valid than some imaginary gay activist's who doesn't have a medical degree.

LOL! I'll take that bet in a debate senario any day.

But on the 4th page of this thread, ROP gave this reference......

I still don't see how ROP's reference was used to counter anything said by your favorite proctologist. On page 5 you alleged that I made a reference to a gay activist. I have done no such thing and you haven't shown that I have. As for domestic violence among same-sex couples, the gay activist you have discounted was actually saying that there is domestic violence among same-sex couples. One need not have a college degree (which she does) to state the obvious. I still fail to see how it relates to your proctologist.

[_bcspace]

I certainly hope bcspace isn't on the clock somewhere today.

Salaried, but it's Friday and my work is complete.