Are you an eight-cow woman?

[_Zoidberg]

Let's have another barfing party, shall we? Who else is utterly pissed off by that stupid movie?

The thing that people don't get in the Church is the respectful treatment of women. I once deconstructed an Aaronic Priesthood lesson on respecting women on the LDS.about.com forum (and I'm telling you, that place is worse than MAD; I know it's hard to imagine, but the mods there actually read every single post before it is allowed to appear on the forum), which got me banned for "trolling", along with a statement that there is no way in Hades I could be an LDS woman. I have also noticed that a lot of people assume I'm a guy despite the huge whopping uterus in my avatar - what's up with that? I thought guys were afraid of female reproductive organs.

But I digress. The lesson talked about how guys need to help those helpless females who are utterly incapable of taking care of themselves. Any reasons for treating women with respect? They have kids. Only one example of a woman who actually accomplished something without her uterus being involved (Deborah). Anyway, here it is: article

I don't want this condescending respect and lip service, thank you very much! "All you're realy good for is being a semen receptacle; you can't do much else and need us to solve all your problems for you, but we still respect you". Barf.

Whenever a GA wants to compliment women, it usually comes out as "women are awesome cuz they make donuts while we're at the Priesthood Conference talking about important stuff", "I dunno what we'd do without you cuz you're the family chauffeur" or "Men, be nice to women! they're your most precious possessions". I say barf, barf and barf!

When is the assumption that a woman needs validation by a man to not feel like a worthless piece of crap going to be eradicated? So far it's a self-reinforcing cycle, and it pisses me off beyond description. President Hinckley shares Johnny Lingo's assumption, which is reflected in his use of this quote: “Man can not degrade woman without himself falling into degradation; he can not elevate her without at the same time elevating himself” article

The fact that the Johnny Lingo movie is so popular in the Mormon culture is reflective of this lobotomized mentality. It's everywhere: on T-shirts, in lessons and even in the New Era. Here's a priceless quote from the article titled "The Eight-Cow Ring" (diamonds are a modern equivalent of cows, in case you didn't know) I'll never forget: "When I was single, it seemed like engaged girls with sparkly diamond rings loved to show them off so everyone would know how much their husband paid for them." article
It took me a while to realize that the word them was referring to the rings and not to the engaged girls. Or maybe my first interpretation is correct? The author of the article ends up flushing her ring down the toilet and has to wear a cheap plain band. And do you think the moral of the story is "don't let your self-esteem be dependent on how your husband treats you"? Au contraire, my friends. The moral of the story is "even though now other people don't know my husband esteemed me highly enough to part with eight cows to be able to bone me, I still know he did, and that's what matters".

I wish Johnny Lingo were real so I could take a dump on his grave.

[_Mercury]

http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/pics9/farrago/barf.jpg

[_barrelomonkeys]

My avatar on MAD is a kitty saying "meow" and someone thought I was a man. I don't understand it.

[_barrelomonkeys]

Oh and *BARF*

[_barrelomonkeys]

http://www.biblehelp.org/cow.htm

"But," he finished softly, "I wanted an eight-cow wife."

I don't know whether to cry or scream.

[_harmony]

LDS men will never give LDS women the respect they deserve until LDS women demand it. And that's not going to happen anytime soon, when the women that have demanded it in the past have been marginalized, trivialized, and excommunicated for their trouble. Joseph Smith gave women more respect (even with all his extramarital affairs) than our leaders today do. He started a free standing organization that wasn't under the control of men. He granted them their own priesthood. We can thank Joseph F Smith, a misogynist of legendary proportions, for the current organization.

LDS men respect non-LDS women because they have to. Non-LDS women are CEO's of companies they deal with, often their bosses, sometimes owners of their companies. Non-LDS women have made enormous strides in the last 30 years or so. LDS women are still stuck in the 50's, guilted into depression, stuck in the unending grind of babies, babies, and more babies.

God help us. It's certain our leaders never will.

[_barrelomonkeys]

http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/pics9/farrago/barf.jpg

OMG! Mercury, you need to put disclaimers next to those type of pictures! Ew

[_beastie]

It's the pedestal cage.

The day I hated the most in the LDS church was Mother's Day. I hated the sappy, blabbering talks the men would give about their wives. I knew most of those men, and knew they often treated their wives like maids and childcare servants. Then they'd get up there and cry about what a sainted woman she is... I guess allowing yourself to be treated like a servant qualifies one for sainthood.

[_Zoidberg]

LDS men will never give LDS women the respect they deserve until LDS women demand it. And that's not going to happen anytime soon, when the women that have demanded it in the past have been marginalized, trivialized, and excommunicated for their trouble. Joseph Smith gave women more respect (even with all his extramarital affairs) than our leaders today do. He started a free standing organization that wasn't under the control of men. He granted them their own priesthood.

I've always found that amazing. I guess he didn't really discriminate against anyone; he used all people equally. He just couldn't use men in the same way he did women, so he came up with polygamy.

We can thank Joseph F Smith, a misogynist of legendary proportions, for the current organization.

LDS men respect non-LDS women because they have to. Non-LDS women are CEO's of companies they deal with, often their bosses, sometimes owners of their companies. Non-LDS women have made enormous strides in the last 30 years or so. LDS women are still stuck in the 50's, guilted into depression, stuck in the unending grind of babies, babies, and more babies.

I'm pretty sure this condescending "respect" is to blame.

[_harmony]

LDS men will never give LDS women the respect they deserve until LDS women demand it. And that's not going to happen anytime soon, when the women that have demanded it in the past have been marginalized, trivialized, and excommunicated for their trouble. Joseph Smith gave women more respect (even with all his extramarital affairs) than our leaders today do. He started a free standing organization that wasn't under the control of men. He granted them their own priesthood.

I've always found that amazing. I guess he didn't really discriminate against anyone; he used all people equally. He just couldn't use men in the same way he did women, so he came up with polygamy.

We can thank Joseph F Smith, a misogynist of legendary proportions, for the current organization.

LDS men respect non-LDS women because they have to. Non-LDS women are CEO's of companies they deal with, often their bosses, sometimes owners of their companies. Non-LDS women have made enormous strides in the last 30 years or so. LDS women are still stuck in the 50's, guilted into depression, stuck in the unending grind of babies, babies, and more babies.

I'm pretty sure this condescending "respect" is to blame.

The way church leaders treat women is one of the most glaring manifestations of their lack of inspiration and discernment, in my opinion. Were they truly in tune with God, they'd make some huge changes, starting with opening the priesthood to women. That lack shows everyone exactly where they have their allegiance.