beastie wrote:Really smart people believe in God!!!
Oh absolutely.
I see it mainly as compartmentalizing science, or taking the scientific method seriously for some matters, but not for others.
I don't find it 'that' dumb to say that you believe in a God, for 'some' reason.
...but saying something like 'I believe in God on a purely scientific basis' would ring serious alarm bells with me... To be fair, you don't hear the claim THAT often, but I have heard it a few times...
Some Schmo wrote:But does all this evidence matter to someone who believes in mary's "purity?" Not in the least. They've invested many years in that belief, including time and thought energy, and it "feels" right to them. So no amount of evidence to the contrary is going to convince them, and the debate rages on... "Supernatural, I tells ya!! It was a supernatural event! God can do anything! He's like... a superhero!"
This is the answer for most problems science and nature pose to religious claims.
"There is no evidence in the Earth that there was a Flood of Noah, and on the contrary, there is evidence that this certainly did not happen."
"It doesn't matter. God could have just hidden the evidence. God could have caused the Flood, and done so in a way that it didn't generate any physical evidence. He is G O D, after all, and he can do anything. And how do we know we're interpreting the evidence correctly? We can't. We can't know until after we die and God shows us how he did it."
Mormonism ceased being a compelling topic for me when I finally came to terms with its transformation from a personality cult into a combination of a real estate company, a SuperPac, and Westboro Baptist Church. - Kishkumen
Some Schmo wrote:But does all this evidence matter to someone who believes in mary's "purity?" Not in the least. They've invested many years in that belief, including time and thought energy, and it "feels" right to them. So no amount of evidence to the contrary is going to convince them, and the debate rages on... "Supernatural, I tells ya!! It was a supernatural event! God can do anything! He's like... a superhero!"
This is the answer for most problems science and nature pose to religious claims.
"There is no evidence in the Earth that there was a Flood of Noah, and on the contrary, there is evidence that this certainly did not happen."
"It doesn't matter. God could have just hidden the evidence. God could have caused the Flood, and done so in a way that it didn't generate any physical evidence. He is G O D, after all, and he can do anything. And how do we know we're interpreting the evidence correctly? We can't. We can't know until after we die and God shows us how he did it."
Right, and God also created starlight in the middle of the way it would have to travel to reach Earth so that Adam could see it (I actually read that on a creationist website).
"reason and religion are friends and allies" - Mitt Romney
Religious belief has nothing to do with science and logic. As has been noted, believers may try to use science and logic to accord their beliefs respectability, but the actual beliefs have nothing to do with science and logic. Perhaps that is why believers seem to think that the beliefs themselves are outside science and logic, even when they can be directly addressed by science and logic.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.