Runtu wrote:You all know about my "hate groupies" experience, wherein a particular poster on MADB circulated emails suggesting I was mentally unhinged and a possible sexual predator. She suggested contacting my stake president, my bishop, and my wife to put a stop to my evil behavior. It's quite easy to put the squeeze on someone in the church if you want to.
That is criminal behavior.
The scary thing is that she knew my name and what town I lived in. Gee, if I'd only been an anonymous coward ...
I have suspected that this tantalizing possibility for intimidation is behind more than a few requests to end anonymity.
No they are not, at least not on the MLS which what is used to generate all records that a ward and stake use. If there is a secret membership list the includes ex LDSers I do not know about it. But I do know all the records which I have used lack the names of resigned members. Why do you think they do not?
What do you think happens when a member requests to no longer be a member or is Xed?
I'm pretty sure their names are kept on file with a notation that they have either been xed or asked to have their names removed. The names no longer are on the ward or stake list but they are still there in the database of church members!
Do you think when a person is Xed that they are taken off the roles as never having been a member? Nope!
From a reliable source, the church knows if someone has been either xed or had their name removed, and rebaptism requires something more than a first time baptism. :-) A second rebaptism, If I recall correctly requires special permission from the FP.
Unless this policy has changed recently, I'm pretty sure it is still in existence.
~dancer~
"The search for reality is the most dangerous of all undertakings for it destroys the world in which you live." Nisargadatta Maharaj
Thousands of Celtic people from the British Isles joined the early Church. The Ancient Celtic, Druid practise of shunning was so exquisite that people preferred death. Seeing therefore the hallmarks of this talent in making shunning so painful clearly interwoven into LDS culture must give one pause to wonder and not bounce off the walls as to whether or not Satan did cast out of his mouth a flood to carry away the restoration as foretold in Reveation 13:13-17. The truth is certainly in the wilderness these days.
I would post original threads but that would tempt everyone to shun me to the face.
Shall I find faith on the earth?
Where is my Zion?
Thousands of Celtic people from the British Isles joined the early Church. The Ancient Celtic, Druid practise of shunning was so exquisite that people preferred death. Seeing therefore the hallmarks of this talent in making shunning so painful clearly interwoven into LDS culture must give one pause to wonder and not bounce off the walls as to whether or not Satan did cast out of his mouth a flood to carry away the restoration as foretold in Reveation 13:13-17. The truth is certainly in the wilderness these days.
I would post original threads but that would tempt everyone to shun me to the face.
The milk of human kindness just oozes from you, James.
James Muir wrote:Thousands of Celtic people from the British Isles joined the early Church. The Ancient Celtic, Druid practise of shunning was so exquisite that people preferred death. Seeing therefore the hallmarks of this talent in making shunning so painful clearly interwoven into LDS culture must give one pause to wonder and not bounce off the walls as to whether or not Satan did cast out of his mouth a flood to carry away the restoration as foretold in Reveation 13:13-17. The truth is certainly in the wilderness these days.
I would post original threads but that would tempt everyone to shun me to the face.
If you want to say the truth resides in it's purest form (on the Earth) in you....why are you being so obtuse?
If it makes you feel any better the reason people might be shunning you is that they think you're a crackpot. The same reason they shunned Jesus and Joseph.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Thousands of Celtic people from the British Isles joined the early Church. The Ancient Celtic, Druid practise of shunning was so exquisite that people preferred death. Seeing therefore the hallmarks of this talent in making shunning so painful clearly interwoven into LDS culture must give one pause to wonder and not bounce off the walls as to whether or not Satan did cast out of his mouth a flood to carry away the restoration as foretold in Reveation 13:13-17. The truth is certainly in the wilderness these days.
I would post original threads but that would tempt everyone to shun me to the face.
The milk of human kindness just oozes from you, James.
Whats to be valiant if you have no issues? I got issues. Having first given my ALL to Christ only to be fully 100% betrayed by this captured by demons church of my heritage.
I got dynamics that make devils jaws drop agape and angels at my side constantly protecting. I want friends. I just want them jacked up to where I can relate to them.
There was supposed to be an entire Church ahead of me waiting to fellowship and recieve me with open arms and give me the wisdom to live up to my covenant. I found nothing but villany and envy, cowardice and evil conspiracy at every hand. Bastards.
What have you done to the Restoration? Bastards.
Shall I find faith on the earth?
Where is my Zion?
James Muir wrote:I got dynamics that make devils jaws drop agape and angels at my side constantly protecting. I want friends. I just want them jacked up to where I can relate to them.
I suggest MENSA. You remind me of many of it's members.
Not the intellect perse.....more the elitism.
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"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
James Muir wrote:There was supposed to be an entire Church ahead of me waiting to fellowship and recieve me with open arms and give me the wisdom to live up to my covenant. I found nothing but villany and envy, cowardice and evil conspiracy at every hand. Bastards. What have you done to the Restoration? Bastards.
Maybe it's just me, but today's church seems the logical evolution of the restoration. It was set up for growth and income, and it continues to be about growth and income. That it has had to jettison some of its earlier millenialism and lost its sense of community is of no consequence as long as the numbers are good.
why me wrote: No one cares. Everyone is doing life to take notice or to mind.
I think this is possible, if you're a nobody, low down on the leadership food chain. I think this is not at all possible, if you are someone in a leadership position. The higher up the food chain a person goes, the less tolerance there is. And I think a lot of other factors play in, including how vocal the person is, how much influence they have in the community, how much damage they can do to the church. Some of us would withstand any lobs from the self-righteous. Some of us wouldn't. And who wants to risk it, either way?
Basically I am a nobody. I suppose that if I were a superactive person and suddenly I found myself in the catholic church and let the bishopric know, perhaps I would get called in for a 'how is it going chat'. But I am also sure that if I let a church friend know, he or she may let the bishopric know out of concern but not to rat me out.
Most of such examples are done for concern for the people involved and not to cause intentional harm. It is a catch 22 when 'souls' are involved.
James Muir wrote:I got dynamics that make devils jaws drop agape and angels at my side constantly protecting. I want friends. I just want them jacked up to where I can relate to them.
As a demon I wish to inform you that your dynamics....whatever that means.....don't even scare loser first-year imps. Delusions of grandeur....look it up.
You might consider pothead circles. They're jacked up to your level.