Infymus, Blixa, runtu, Dr. Shades, KimberlyAnn and Trinity

[_wenglund]

It may come as a surprise, but I certainly don't undersell your internal qualities in that way. In fact, I genuinely find much to admire in your intelligence and love and so forth, far more than your clevage--and though I haven't seen your clevage, from what I gather from others, that is saying alot. ;-)

I trust that I am not alone in thinking this way about you.

Now, if only you might see your beauty within like we do, that would be great!

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

I'm just going to be honest with you, Wade.

You're probably a nice enough fellow, but what you wrote above rings hollow. I've no idea why you'd go from telling me I give women a bad name and am a raving, hysterical feminist (which I'm not) to finding anything admirable in me, so you'll have to excuse me for being incredulous. KA

That is perfectly understandable. And, for that reason, I am hoping that others (those you deem credible), like Liz, will chime in and echo my genuine sentiments. It is not so much important to me that you believe what I say, as long as you do come to recognize the immense beauty within yourself.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Runtu]

That is perfectly understandable. And, for that reason, I am hoping that others (those you deem credible), like Liz, will chime in and echo my genuine sentiments. It is not so much important to me that you believe what I say, as long as you do come to recognize the immense beauty within yourself.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

I'd guess the sentiments would seem more genuine if you apologized to her for the terrible things you said to her. Maybe it's just me, but I would never tell someone they made their gender look bad. To my knowledge, you never have apologized.

[_wenglund]

That is perfectly understandable. And, for that reason, I am hoping that others (those you deem credible), like Liz, will chime in and echo my genuine sentiments. It is not so much important to me that you believe what I say, as long as you do come to recognize the immense beauty within yourself.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

I'd guess the sentiments would seem more genuine if you apologized to her for the terrible things you said to her. Maybe it's just me, but I would never tell someone they made their gender look bad. To my knowledge, you never have apologized.

I understand.

However, I would think it best to focus less on looking backwards for blame or apologies, and more on looking forward in finding what works best. If dismissing my gracious remarks because of past actions and for want of apology is what works for KA and you, then I can respect that, though I may see it differently. Either way, I would think it in everyone's interest for each of us to focus on recognizing our own overwhelmingly prevaling beauty within, and striving better in the future to ensure that our outward actions are more consistent with that inner beauty. But, that may just be me. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Runtu]

I understand.

However, I would think it best to focus less on looking backwards for blame or apologies, and more on looking forward in finding what works best. If dismissing my gracious remarks because of past actions and for want of apology is what works for KA and you, then I can respect that, though I may see it differently. Either way, I would think it in everyone's interest for each of us to focus on recognizing our own overwhelmingly prevaling beauty within, and striving better in the future to ensure that our outward actions are more consistent with that inner beauty. But, that may just be me. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Just as I expected. I've never seen you apologize. I'm guessing I won't, at least not in this lifetime. I'm not dismissing your "gracious" remarks, but I still think you owe her an apology.

[_guy sajer]

You missed my extreme cleavage, dude. I always show cleavage in the shadow of the everlasting hills. It's what protects me from all the Mormons in Utah.

Stop it! stop stop stop stop stop stop!!!

I never glanced more than once. Or twice... Or thrice.

"Shadow of the everlasting hills?" That explains the strange melon-shaped shadow that covered our table the other day. And some very nice and firm melons it looked like.

[_Blixa]

Guy, Guy, Guy! I am so sorry I didn't talk to you! I don't know what was wrong with me! I can only say that the din created in the room by all the interesting conversation made me miss Trinity's explanation of who you were. I would have LOVED to talked to you.

*Kicking myself*

ARgh!!!!

[_wenglund]

I understand.

However, I would think it best to focus less on looking backwards for blame or apologies, and more on looking forward in finding what works best. If dismissing my gracious remarks because of past actions and for want of apology is what works for KA and you, then I can respect that, though I may see it differently. Either way, I would think it in everyone's interest for each of us to focus on recognizing our own overwhelmingly prevaling beauty within, and striving better in the future to ensure that our outward actions are more consistent with that inner beauty. But, that may just be me. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Just as I expected. I've never seen you apologize. I'm guessing I won't, at least not in this lifetime. I'm not dismissing your "gracious" remarks, but I still think you owe her an apology.

You are certainly free to make this about me and to remain fixed in the past waiting for an apology that some might think deserving to go the other way. But, my intent in participating on thread was not to get embroiled in such a pointless debate, but rather out of concern that KA might get the impression that the only thing that people (particularly the men) may have valued about her or thought worthy of note, was her clevage. Perhaps if you could take pause from your self-righteous indignation and perhaps mention something else about her of value, that could prove useful. But, to each their own.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Trinity]

I understand.

However, I would think it best to focus less on looking backwards for blame or apologies, and more on looking forward in finding what works best. If dismissing my gracious remarks because of past actions and for want of apology is what works for KA and you, then I can respect that, though I may see it differently. Either way, I would think it in everyone's interest for each of us to focus on recognizing our own overwhelmingly prevaling beauty within, and striving better in the future to ensure that our outward actions are more consistent with that inner beauty. But, that may just be me. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Just as I expected. I've never seen you apologize. I'm guessing I won't, at least not in this lifetime. I'm not dismissing your "gracious" remarks, but I still think you owe her an apology.

You are certainly free to make this about me and to remain fixed in the past waiting for an apology that some might think deserving to go the other way. But, my intent in participating on thread was not to get embroiled in such a pointless debate, but rather out of concern that KA might get the impression that the only thing that people (particularly the men) may have valued about her or thought worthy of note, was her clevage. Perhaps if you could take pause from your self-righteous indignation and perhaps mention something else about her of value, that could prove useful. But, to each their own.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Hi Wade,

Nothing in my interactions with KA would lead me to believe she is insecure about herself. As such, I hereby release you from your chivalrous duties.

Go in peace, young man.

[_Runtu]

You are certainly free to make this about me and to remain fixed in the past waiting for an apology that some might think deserving to go the other way. But, my intent in participating on thread was not to get embroiled in such a pointless debate, but rather out of concern that KA might get the impression that the only thing that people (particularly the men) may have valued about her or thought worthy of note, was her clevage. Perhaps if you could take pause from your self-righteous indignation and perhaps mention something else about her of value, that could prove useful. But, to each their own.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

I understand. And no, I'm not waiting for an apology that will never come. As I said, one thing I have learned about you is that you never apologize to anyone, and I accept that about you. Just an observation, not self-righteous indignation (where did you come up with that?). And how is suggesting that you owe her an apology a debate of any kind?

I've said many times that KA is a wonderful person. I enjoyed our conversation on Friday; it was wonderful to be with a good friend. But she knows that. Teasing her about her cleavage takes nothing away from our friendship.

[_MishMagnet]

Hello mormondiscussions!

I told Dr. Shades I would come check you guys out so here I am.

I do have a picture of KA's cleavage. It's on my cell phone, though. I sent it to my husband during lunch. He replied back "is that yours or Kimberly Anns?" Such a nice guy that husband.

Lovely lunch, lovely weekend!