The anger of exmos...

[_Runtu]

Really? I call everyone whose opinion on the Church differs from mine an arrogant fool who only wants to inflame? Care to provide a reference?

I guess I distinguish between those who are personally hateful and those who just passionately disagree with the other side. There are a few of the former here, and some over there.

[_rcrocket]

Also, why don't you ask juliann why she's so angry and bitter despite being in the only true Church which offers all this incredible happiness? Why attack and mock other people she believes to be her brothers and sisters?

I'll give you a hint: it has nothing to do with having a testimony or lacking one.

I guess it is really impossible to see that for every mean spirited and spiteful Juliann on your board of obsession, there are 20 counterparts here, of which you are one.

Really? I call everyone whose opinion on the Church differs from mine an arrogant fool who only wants to inflame? Care to provide a reference?

Well, it seems to me that you post often in the same style as Pahoran but don't have his depth of knowledge of Church doctrine and history. Of course, I could be wrong and if so, I apologize.

But, I am one of the very very very few true believers on this Board, and I am routinely treated spitefully and even threatened at times. I have received threats that my employer will be informed of my views, and in the case of Mr. Scratch a few days ago, my stake president. Is it so hard to see that boorish behavior and ill manners are as prevalent here, and perhaps much more so, than the board you all obsess over?

rcrocket

[_moksha]

I can only give you my opinion. If I lost absolute faith in the LDS church, I would be the happiest person alive. And why not. The loss of belief would free me from a religious tradition. And it would also give me opportunities to discover other truths.

It sounds sad that you cannot have faith in the LDS Church and still have the opportunity to discover other truths. My guess is this must be a self imposed cap on your discovery abilities or else a self limit on your ability to accept discoverable truths. Either way, my wish for you is to breath free and soar with ideas that might compliment and refresh your existing faith. After all, the spirit does not prosper by dogma alone.

[_Inconceivable]

Thank TD,

You are a breath of fresh air amidst the temper tantrums of the easily offended.

Yes, I am realizing this is a transitional stage, once again, thank you for your kind words. It really hurts and there is a strong ripple effect. But I do see that at least my eyes are opened moreso than I could have ever imagined than in that previous life called Mormonism.

And as opened as my eyes are, and as dark as it seems today, it's brighter than it was.

surreal, no?

[_Inconceivable]

CFR How did you come up with that ratio?

Julianne Reynolds = 1

Pokatator
Zoidberg
Roll-over for anything
Ms. Scratch
Kevin Graham
Coggins
Guy Sajer
Infymus
PP
VegasBlight
Trixie
Blixa
Harmony
Some Schmo
Ray A
GIMR
Capt Jack
James Muir
That Moron, James Bond
marg
why me = 21

Oops. Miscounted.

21 to 1.

I am invisible!

[_Bond...James Bond]

CFR How did you come up with that ratio?

Julianne Reynolds = 1

Pokatator
Zoidberg
Roll-over for anything
Ms. Scratch
Kevin Graham
Coggins
Guy Sajer
Infymus
PP
VegasBlight
Trixie
Blixa
Harmony
Some Schmo
Ray A
GIMR
Capt Jack
James Muir
That Moron, James Bond
marg
why me = 21

Oops. Miscounted.

21 to 1.

why me, Ray A, and Coggins are defenders. Pretty sure James Muir is a defender too. So at best that's only 17-1. Besides, I figured Juliann rates around 50-1 or so. Give her some credit!

[_harmony]

Well, it seems to me that you post often in the same style as Pahoran but don't have his depth of knowledge of Church doctrine and history. Of course, I could be wrong and if so, I apologize.

But, I am one of the very very very few true believers on this Board, and I am routinely treated spitefully and even threatened at times. I have received threats that my employer will be informed of my views, and in the case of Mr. Scratch a few days ago, my stake president. Is it so hard to see that boorish behavior and ill manners are as prevalent here, and perhaps much more so, than the board you all obsess over?

rcrocket

Wait a second. I thought you never went to MAD? If you never read or participate on MAD, how can you compare it to MDB? How would you know what is the standard behavior there, let alone if it's less boorish or more ill mannered than here, if you've never read there, or even if you've read there sparingly?

And you have a few too many 'very's in that paragraph. We have several true believers here besides you. Surely I don't need to name them, although hey may feel marginalized by you after that comment.

And it's not good form for you to put up Juliann's full name. She deliberately uses a pseudonym the same as most of us do, and for you to break the code is... well, bad form.

[_why me]

...does it seem to others like why me and Ray A are the same person?

We are very much alike. I think that Ray A went over to postmorgue because of my comments here. He did pretty well over there telling it like it is but he is now hedging a little. Jeff is keeping him on to show how open minded postmorgue is. Ray did stir the pot and made some great points about angry exmos on that site and the hypocrisy of the site.

I think that Ray A and I are somewhat in the same boat but on different decks.

I think the postmorgue has an extensive search location of all posters. If someone posts a TBM perpective, I think that they immediately attempt to locate his or her location. I am sure that Elder Nomo and Jeff did a search of IPs to see if Ray and I post from the same location.

[_why me]

I can only give you my opinion. If I lost absolute faith in the LDS church, I would be the happiest person alive. And why not. The loss of belief would free me from a religious tradition. And it would also give me opportunities to discover other truths.

It sounds sad that you cannot have faith in the LDS Church and still have the opportunity to discover other truths. My guess is this must be a self imposed cap on your discovery abilities or else a self limit on your ability to accept discoverable truths. Either way, my wish for you is to breath free and soar with ideas that might compliment and refresh your existing faith. After all, the spirit does not prosper by dogma alone.

I think that you misunderstood me. I meant that for many exmos, when they leave they claim freedom while in the LDS church there was no freedom. When a person believes in a religion there are certain 'restrictions' in living life. To be free of that religion should free the person from such restrictions. Anger should be replaced by happiness.

Now there are many happy Mormons living their faith. No problem. But for exmos, they really should be happy in their disbelief.

[_Zoidberg]

Well, it seems to me that you post often in the same style as Pahoran but don't have his depth of knowledge of Church doctrine and history.

I'm deeply hurt. I was hoping I was funnier than him. As for my depth of blah blah balh, I would like to know how you formed this opinion. Isn't Pahoran a seminary teacher? I used to be one, as well, so it appears that we have similar qualifications.

Of course, I could be wrong and if so, I apologize.

Oh please. First pull an entirely unbased opinion out of your butt, then apologize in case you are wrong.

Bob, it seems to me that you like to wear a purple Hello Kitty thong at least once a week. Of course, I could be wrong and if so, I apologize.

But, I am one of the very very very few true believers on this Board, and I am routinely treated spitefully and even threatened at times.

And what is my role in the spiteful treatment of your person and threats you are supposedly receiving? If there is none, why are you grouping me with people that supposedly threaten you?

I have received threats that my employer will be informed of my views, and in the case of Mr. Scratch a few days ago, my stake president. Is it so hard to see that boorish behavior and ill manners are as prevalent here, and perhaps much more so, than the board you all obsess over?

I'm convinced that prevalence would be lowered if you stopped gracing us with your presence. Also, if you are not ashamed of your views, what would be the harm in your employer or especially stake president finding out about them?

You have failed to cite examples of my juliann-like behavior and, coupled with your other judgements of my person as a dishonest, immoral coward after reading one post of mine total (unless you'd actually gone back and read all of my posts here and on MAD, figured out my IP address, tracked me down and hired a PI to investigate my life), that leads me to believe that you are prone to making hasty and unbased judgements about people. This is why you have no credibility, Bob.