Enduring to the End

[_Inconceivable]

endure >verb 1 suffer (something painful and prolonged) patiently. 2 tolerate. 3 remain in existence.
-DERIVATIVES endurable >adjective.
-ORIGIN Latin indurare 'harden'.

yak. no thanks.






3 words of advice:

"run Forest run"

[_Scottie]

I'm not sure I take exception to the phrase.

Even outside of the church, we should all be engaged in a life long battle to better ourselves. How do we better ourselves? By staying in our comfort zone, or by causing ourselves discomfort, thereby growth?

Every one of us have areas in which we are constantly battling to change within ourselves. Some days we grow a little, other days it seems as if we take 3 steps back. However, we must "endure to the end" and continue to strive to overcome whatever our own personal demons are that haunt us.

We all have our vices, and it is too easy to say it's too hard and I don't want to do it anymore. This is when we need to remember to endure to the end.

[Guest]

I didn't read the other comments. Life should be embraced as a joyful journey. Pain is going to be confronted but we should at all times recognize the beauty and fullness that is all about us. We should not endure ANYTHING that strips us of our loves and passions. Sure moderation is key... but endure something and deny ourselves laughter, love, and joy because we must?

[_keene]

I'm not sure I take exception to the phrase.

Even outside of the church, we should all be engaged in a life long battle to better ourselves. How do we better ourselves? By staying in our comfort zone, or by causing ourselves discomfort, thereby growth?

Every one of us have areas in which we are constantly battling to change within ourselves. Some days we grow a little, other days it seems as if we take 3 steps back. However, we must "endure to the end" and continue to strive to overcome whatever our own personal demons are that haunt us.

We all have our vices, and it is too easy to say it's too hard and I don't want to do it anymore. This is when we need to remember to endure to the end.

If one wants to change, wouldn't creating a battle against oneself only make it that more difficult to change?

For example, hold your hands up in prayer position, and then push the right one over. If you push back with your left, it gets MUCH harder than it should be.

Leaving our comfort zones is definitely a good thing, but perhaps we should consider ways in which we can do it easily, and with enjoyment?

[_barrelomonkeys]

I'm not sure I take exception to the phrase.

Even outside of the church, we should all be engaged in a life long battle to better ourselves. How do we better ourselves? By staying in our comfort zone, or by causing ourselves discomfort, thereby growth?

Every one of us have areas in which we are constantly battling to change within ourselves. Some days we grow a little, other days it seems as if we take 3 steps back. However, we must "endure to the end" and continue to strive to overcome whatever our own personal demons are that haunt us.

We all have our vices, and it is too easy to say it's too hard and I don't want to do it anymore. This is when we need to remember to endure to the end.

Ha, I think our comfort zones often are the ones that we are enduring... it's when we step out of that comfort zone and shuck off the safety that we truly grow.

I think the discomfort is OFTEN found when we bravely step out of the comfort zones.

Mish mash this bs about comfort zones. We endure crap because we're too chicken to go for it.

[Guest]

You make it sound like it is an absolute impossibility to have any kind of joy whatsoever in the LDS church. This is absolutely false. Many MANY people are absolutely happy there.

And, as far as the difficulty of bettering yourself, I think a lot of that depends on how big the demons are. Some people, like DS alluded to and Runtu has in the past, are fighting an every day battle to maintain sanity. "Enduring to the end" means a whole lot more to these guys than me. I have my share of issues to work out, and I must endure to the end just like everyone else.

[_Runtu]

You make it sound like it is an absolute impossibility to have any kind of joy whatsoever in the LDS church. This is absolutely false. Many MANY people are absolutely happy there.

Totally agreed.

And, as far as the difficulty of bettering yourself, I think a lot of that depends on how big the demons are. Some people, like DS alluded to and Runtu has in the past, are fighting an every day battle to maintain sanity. "Enduring to the end" means a whole lot more to these guys than me. I have my share of issues to work out, and I must endure to the end just like everyone else.

Wow, such a vote of confidence. I'm battling every day to stay sane. LOL

Joking aside, I have good days and bad days with my depression. It would be nice to just have days where I'm happy to be alive and enjoying the ride. To me, that would be "bettering" myself. Oddly enough, I don't have a lot of vices and I don't have a low self-esteem. But depression does indeed suck.

[_barrelomonkeys]

Hang on a sec. Is <deleted> an insult on this board? I post elsewhere and <cancel> is a regular insult insinuating that you can't say anything nice.

There are a few clouds upon my innards today, and it brought about a post with some personal information (regarding my mental/chemical battles and the never-ending quest to survive just one more day) that after a few moments I had a twinge of cowardice and decided to remove.

It was in no way an insult, and I will try to be more careful to clarify why I am deleting (instead of just “[deleted]”) in the future. I’m sorry for the confusion.

Steuss I'm sorry you have clouds today.

I hope your days become brighter soon.

[_Scottie]

You make it sound like it is an absolute impossibility to have any kind of joy whatsoever in the LDS church. This is absolutely false. Many MANY people are absolutely happy there.

I just realized how many times I said "absolute" in that sentance...oops...lol

[_keene]

You make it sound like it is an absolute impossibility to have any kind of joy whatsoever in the LDS church. This is absolutely false. Many MANY people are absolutely happy there.

Not sure who you're talking to in this statement, but I agree. I do think the LDS church has a path that, if followed correctly, can lead to a true form of happiness.

I also think it's inefficient and confusing, and has the possibility to lead to the exact wrong place. But then, I haven't really found anything yet that doesn't.

And, as far as the difficulty of bettering yourself, I think a lot of that depends on how big the demons are. Some people, like DS alluded to and Runtu has in the past, are fighting an every day battle to maintain sanity. "Enduring to the end" means a whole lot more to these guys than me. I have my share of issues to work out, and I must endure to the end just like everyone else.

To endure the demon, or to endure the battle against the demon seems silly. Why not stop enduring, and win?

I used to struggle through huge bouts of depression and suicidal tendancies, and as long as I kept up the image of me "enduring" the pain of it, then my unconsious (and oft times, even my conscious) mind would create the situations where I felt the pain. You can't really endure anything if there isn't anything to endure.

Joking aside, I have good days and bad days with my depression. It would be nice to just have days where I'm happy to be alive and enjoying the ride. To me, that would be "bettering" myself. Oddly enough, I don't have a lot of vices and I don't have a low self-esteem. But depression does indeed suck.

When you think about those nice days, where is the depression in the image? Is it being endured? Or is it even there?

I think labeling it, and thinking about it in terms of an object, "I /have/ depression" just kind of locks it into the mind. Instead, think of it as a process: "I /do/ depression." Then it's just a simple as doing something else, instead -- like be happy and enjoy the ride.