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QUOTE(David Bokovoy @ Oct 17 2007, 08:11 PM)I believe that your observation couldn't be more wrong. Some of my favorite posters, no, some of my favorite people were once traditionalists but now critics. We get along quite well. This includes individuals such as David P. Wright, Dan Vogel, Brent Metcalfe, Don Bradley and many, many others who are a bit less famous. I suspect that if you read through his most recent attacks, you'll understand why Kevin doesn’t fit in with this group.
David, I do not think it is fair to make this comparison. First of all Kevin seems to have particular background knowledge in the field of biblical scholarship that far surpasses Metcalfe and Vogel. They tend to focus on Mormon history which has very little to do with your apologetics. Most of your apologetic claims relate to biblical scholarship, so naturally Kevin is more likely to take exception with anything you say. Also, I do not recall Vogel or Metcalfe starting any threads that critique any of your positions. I don’t even recall them disagreeing wit you in any particular discussion. Maybe Kevin was right when he said he is the only one who has taken you to task on some of your apologetic issues?
What seems to set Kevin apart from the rest of your “critics” is that he sees more problems with your apologetics than the rest, and above all, he actually speaks up. The rest remain quiet, at least on this forum. And I do not think it is fair to call him “obsessed” either. Kevin has always focused his attention on one thing or another for a given period of time. McKeever and Johnson thought he was obsessed with them when he spent three years working on the Mormonism 201 project for FAIR. Did anyone over here accuse him of obsession then? After that Kevin had already established himself as a capable, well read apologist with passable background knowledge in Old Testament scholarship. He had already completed his next installment critiquing JP Holding's arguments against the divine body. This was another project he devoted two years to complete. Actually for many years he was all about criticizing JP Holding, and now the two are best of buddies.
Of course this was before you came along and started posting at FAIR as ennumaelish. I looked up your first encounter with Kevin and I have to say I did not see any animus coming from him. So it wasn’t as if he decided to jump into that field for the sole purpose of criticizing you. He was already read up on that topic and had already become a critic of what he considered bad apologetics. He genuinely has issues with many of your claims and you gradually got on his nerves in the way you pronounced things as fact with no leeway for dissent.
I guess the point is that he didn’t wake up one day and spun the bottle to decide which apologist he wanted to wage a vendetta against. This seems to be the silly impression folks have over here.
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It looks to me like he was responding to David’s comments. David is the author of the discussion. David is the one who started comparing me to Metcalfe and Vogel. David is the one who suggested that he can get along with his critics, but I can’t. Trashman responds to these topics just like he said he did.
Trashman makes an excellent point when he tells Momus that it is impossible to respond to Bokovoy’s comments about me, without them having something to do with me. So what’s left? The audience is not permitted to do anything except cheer David as he continues his onslaught.