The Dude wrote:Yep. See the thread: "ID and Survival of the Fittest in the Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith a sophisticated philosopher?"
Warship wrote:I’d like to briefly explore some of the philosophical correlations to the debate between Alma and Korihor in Alma 30. In this familiar dialogue Alma and Korihor hit upon two hotly debated philosophical arguments. I will look at the roots of one argument from Korihor, mostly Social Darwinism, and one from Alma, mainly teleological.
Korihor succinctly articulates the future theory of Social Darwinism, most popularly summed up by Herbert Spencer’s phrase 'survival of the fittest' (Principles of Biology, 1864) which was inspired after Spencer’s reading of Darwin’s Origen of Species, 1859....
When Korihor asks Alma for a sign to prove God’s existence, Alma gives him many evidences…including what might seem to some an answer similar to the fairly modern idea of Intelligent Design…the assertion or belief that physical and biological systems observed in the universe result from purposeful design by an intelligent being rather than from chance or undirected natural processes....
Those who disagree with the authenticity of the Book of Mormon would say Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon from his imagination. Could Joseph Smith, with a third grade education, deliver such eloquent summations of sophisticated philosophical arguments while hurriedly dictating the Book of Mormon from his imagination?
The best response:
Mighty Curelom wrote:Honestly, you're trying too hard. Next you'll be telling us the Cat in the Hat is an allusion to Nietzsche's Will to Power.
So....um....yeah. That's f***ing insane. Crikey! Talk about trying to connect together a couple of individual dots. My goodness.....why would Korrihor be articulating social darwinistic theory or ideas? Crazy.
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
Oh! jadams_4040 is interesting.... I don't try to interact. I smile at his posts (in a friendly sort of way) and think of him as a grandfatherly sort of fella sitting on a porch swing spitting tabacy into a can... and carry on.
dartagnan wrote:Someone please explain to me how this isn’t a “chose your side” call for all participants?
Why the hell would anyone at MAD come post over here now when they know they risk being placed on the Momus s*** list?
Any poster with any kind of balls would come over here in an instant, rather than allow the mad mods at MAD to control their ability to express themselves.
barrelomonkeys wrote:Oh! jadams_4040 is interesting.... I don't try to interact. I smile at his posts (in a friendly sort of way) and think of him as a grandfatherly sort of fella sitting on a porch swing spitting tabacy into a can... and carry on.
He told me my heart was absolutely void of any decent intentions (or something like that; I had a hard time trying to interpret the few words that were spelled correctly, like "a" and "in"). Oh, how right he was (if that was, in fact, what he meant)!
"reason and religion are friends and allies" - Mitt Romney
Yep. See the thread: "ID and Survival of the Fittest in the Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith a sophisticated philosopher?"
Warship wrote:I’d like to briefly explore some of the philosophical correlations to the debate between Alma and Korihor in Alma 30. In this familiar dialogue Alma and Korihor hit upon two hotly debated philosophical arguments. I will look at the roots of one argument from Korihor, mostly Social Darwinism, and one from Alma, mainly teleological.
Korihor succinctly articulates the future theory of Social Darwinism, most popularly summed up by Herbert Spencer’s phrase 'survival of the fittest' (Principles of Biology, 1864) which was inspired after Spencer’s reading of Darwin’s Origen of Species, 1859....
When Korihor asks Alma for a sign to prove God’s existence, Alma gives him many evidences…including what might seem to some an answer similar to the fairly modern idea of Intelligent Design…the assertion or belief that physical and biological systems observed in the universe result from purposeful design by an intelligent being rather than from chance or undirected natural processes....
Those who disagree with the authenticity of the Book of Mormon would say Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon from his imagination. Could Joseph Smith, with a third grade education, deliver such eloquent summations of sophisticated philosophical arguments while hurriedly dictating the Book of Mormon from his imagination?
The best response:
Mighty Curelom wrote:Honestly, you're trying too hard. Next you'll be telling us the Cat in the Hat is an allusion to Nietzsche's Will to Power.
Hey, they give out graduate degrees at BYU for that type of thinking. Do it for eighty-five pages, take some classes and just pick which degree you want on your wall.
barrelomonkeys wrote:Oh! jadams_4040 is interesting.... I don't try to interact. I smile at his posts (in a friendly sort of way) and think of him as a grandfatherly sort of fella sitting on a porch swing spitting tabacy into a can... and carry on.
He told me my heart was absolutely void of any decent intentions (or something like that; I had a hard time trying to interpret the few words that were spelled correctly, like "a" and "in"). Oh, how right he was (if that was, in fact, what he meant)!
Oh! I live for those insults. Hammer became my favorite! Although I think he even stopped telling me I was of Satan. Phooey!
skippy the dead wrote:I've noticed that there are outrageous positions put forth there that the critics don't even bother refuting any more. It doesn't do any good, anyway.
When jadams_4040 says science now supports Noah's global flood,
ROFL, Dude I agree totally with your comments, Jadams really bothers me when he posts on MADB. Normally I don't nitpick on peoples spelling or grammar errors in their posts. But... in the MAJORITY of Jadams posts his spelling and syntax is atrocious and the majority of the time his views are so simple minded it confuses me as I try to assume what he thinks he is saying. Not picking on the guy but man is it annoying to see him add his 2 cents to any topic. As for being kicked off the boards I too have seen the recent shift to get rid of any that present valid criticisms mostly presented by posters on this board. All they seem to want to do is pat each other on the back for a job well done. Sadly the only job well done is kissing each others a$$ and dismissing other posters experiences or research if it doesn't jibe with their version of the truth.
barrelomonkeys wrote:Oh! jadams_4040 is interesting.... I don't try to interact. I smile at his posts (in a friendly sort of way) and think of him as a grandfatherly sort of fella sitting on a porch swing spitting tabacy into a can... and carry on.
He told me my heart was absolutely void of any decent intentions (or something like that; I had a hard time trying to interpret the few words that were spelled correctly, like "a" and "in"). Oh, how right he was (if that was, in fact, what he meant)!
Oh! I live for those insults. Hammer became my favorite! Although I think he even stopped telling me I was of Satan. Phooey!
Hammer's pretty cool, too. I think the sreen name is very fitting.
"reason and religion are friends and allies" - Mitt Romney
Bond...James Bond wrote:Wow....that's a real shocker I think. He seems totally laid back usually.
Well....it all went down on that Divine Council thread. Chaos dropped the hammer. I totally didn't see that one coming on TCM.
I could have predicted that one. It's an unwritten law that you never side with Kevin Graham.
The thread was a train wreck ready to happen. It probably should have been closed immediately. And I think that the mods now realize their mistake. But by the time they realized what was happening, it was too late.