Do some MAD posters need our validation?

[_beastie]

OK, it is nearly 4 a.m. and I wish I was sleeping. But I just checked, and half the top 10 topics are about MA&D in some way. I checked over on MA&D and there aren't any about anyone here or this board.

Why?

You have to check for commentary about "other" boards. Apparently we (and RFM) are so evil that we cannot be named outright.

In addition, people who come here often due so after either being banned (usually due to the extraordinarily biased moderating) or leaving of their own volition in disgust, so it's fresh on their minds.

[_charity]

Actually, I looked at topics.

I was accused here of thinking of apologetics as a game. And it is true that if it weren't for anti's and critics, there would be no need for apologetics. But validation? I've met most of the people you talk about in real life. And they do have real lives, unlike what is portrayed here.

[_aussieguy55]

Ray seems to have the same fixation about ex-mormons in his site http://answeringtheanti-mormons.blogspot.com/

[_cacheman]

The thread over on MAD today about (what else?) exit narratives got me thinking. Do some people over there need to feel like "targets" to feel like they are worth something as apologists? I was thinking that it's usually the least substantive people who tend to get personal with the exmos, and maybe they feel like this is how to get attention and notoriety as a "star" in the apologetic world. Otherwise, I don't understand why people continue to egg on the critics and then express their shock and dismay at the way they are treated.

I don't think 'need' is the correct term, but I do think that some people crave or thrive off of the personal attention. Of course, I see it going both ways. It's simple human nature, but it's probably not very constructive.

cacheman

[_Trevor]

OK, it is nearly 4 a.m. and I wish I was sleeping. But I just checked, and half the top 10 topics are about MA&D in some way. I checked over on MA&D and there aren't any about anyone here or this board.

Why?

I don't know. I for one find the place a complete bore, and I have a difficult time mustering any interest in it. Lately, I'll pop over for a minute, yawn, and come back here. I also spend as little time as possible here becoming involved in MAD-oriented threads. This is an exception, but only because you have raised a good point. I can understand why you came over here. If I were you, I would have died of boredom long ago over there.

[_Runtu]

Actually, I looked at topics.

I was accused here of thinking of apologetics as a game. And it is true that if it weren't for anti's and critics, there would be no need for apologetics. But validation? I've met most of the people you talk about in real life. And they do have real lives, unlike what is portrayed here.

I didn't mention any names. Who are you talking about? And I certainly didn't accuse you thinking apologetics are a game. I just thought it interesting that some people over there seem to relish being disliked so much over here. I thought it was an interesting sociological phenomenon.

[_Yoda]

Actually, I looked at topics.

I was accused here of thinking of apologetics as a game. And it is true that if it weren't for anti's and critics, there would be no need for apologetics. But validation? I've met most of the people you talk about in real life. And they do have real lives, unlike what is portrayed here.

I didn't mention any names. Who are you talking about? And I certainly didn't accuse you thinking apologetics are a game. I just thought it interesting that some people over there seem to relish being disliked so much over here. I thought it was an interesting sociological phenomenon.

Oh, let's quit being coy and mention names.

;)

Unless you have been under a rock somewhere, it is obvious that Harmony is right. Juliann thrives on the attention, be it negative or positive.

And, since she is the originator of the MAD/FAIR board, she gets a free pass with what she can say, no matter how outrageous.

Those she deems as her friends gain the same privilege.

Hey, it's her board. If she wants to run it that way, then more power to her.

But she should at least have the balls to call a spade a spade and spell it out that way.

Her fake coyness about her supposedly not being a moderator, when everyone knows she is, is annoying, and just plain stupid.

Also, I think that to be fair to investigators, and those who have sincere questions about questionable Church history, there ought to be a huge warning about participation.

Frankly, I think they are taking a step in the right direction in referring those folks to LDSForums.

They should have, in huge black letters on the home page for MAD, "If you doubt any part of the LDS doctrine, and you don't enjoy being chewed up and spit out verbally, this is not the place for you."

Charity, you and I have had this discussion in PM on several occasions when we were on the FAIR board together.

Not everyone has access to the same type of information that you may have been blessed to have. Incredulous as you find this to be, it's true.

There are many difficult doctrinal points that I did not know about until I went to BYU and was involved in Religion classes.

Not everyone has access to a vast library, and when they come across hard-line issues such as MMM, Joseph Smith's polyandry, etc., like it or not, it is a shock!

[_LifeOnaPlate]

OK, it is nearly 4 a.m. and I wish I was sleeping. But I just checked, and half the top 10 topics are about MA&D in some way. I checked over on MA&D and there aren't any about anyone here or this board.

Why?

One reason this board isn't mentioned there is to avoid board wars, and possibly to avoid people finding this site through that site.

As far as why so many topics here are about that board, if I understand correctly, a lot of posters here were originally there and were banned? I could be wrong about that.

[_LifeOnaPlate]

Additionally, some posters at MAD are really making an honest effort to have good discussions without being vitriolic. Reading things here might lead one to believe everyone there is a jerk. Some are, some aren't.

[_Doctor Steuss]

I rely on LifeOnaPlate to validate me. I hate paying for parking.

All-in-all, I'd imagine we are all seeking a little bit of attention. I don't know what sort of person would crave negative attention (there's something psychologically wrong with that, in my opinion), but I think we're all looking for our little pat-on-the-back.

There comes a time in life when you’re kicked off the teat, and you’ve got to find a new way to be coddled.