First, I agree that inter-faith marriages often encounter trouble based on the differences, and second, it is a bit condescending to assert all Mormon children are raised to embrace a "lack of critical thinking skills."
Yes, I'm always a bit amused that this is thrown about. Obviously if LDS are mindless zombies how did we get all these intelligent critical thinking ex-Mos on this board? ;)
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LifeOnaPlate wrote: First, I agree that inter-faith marriages often encounter trouble based on the differences, and second, it is a bit condescending to assert all Mormon children are raised to embrace a "lack of critical thinking skills."
You think? Mormons are supposed to accept that a guy went into the forest and saw god. They're supposed to believe everything they're leaders tell them, and they're not supposed to question them. They're supposed to avoid information that is contrary to church claims.
If that, alone, doesn't spell a lack of critical thinking, I don't know what does.
Actually Mormons are encouraged to talk to the God that he went and saw.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
First, I agree that inter-faith marriages often encounter trouble based on the differences, and second, it is a bit condescending to assert all Mormon children are raised to embrace a "lack of critical thinking skills."
Yes, I'm always a bit amused that this is thrown about. Obviously if LDS are mindless zombies how did we get all these intelligent critical thinking ex-Mos on this board? ;)
They're exmo's strictly because they have critical thinking skills. Kind of a no-brainer there, Book of Mormon.
;)
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
LifeOnaPlate wrote: First, I agree that inter-faith marriages often encounter trouble based on the differences, and second, it is a bit condescending to assert all Mormon children are raised to embrace a "lack of critical thinking skills."
You think? Mormons are supposed to accept that a guy went into the forest and saw god. They're supposed to believe everything they're leaders tell them, and they're not supposed to question them. They're supposed to avoid information that is contrary to church claims.
If that, alone, doesn't spell a lack of critical thinking, I don't know what does.
Actually Mormons are encouraged to talk to the God that he went and saw.
Well, I would encourage you to go talk to the three headed space monkey that appeared to me in a vision last night and ask him if he exists. If you pray hard enough with pure intentions and have faith that he exists, there is no doubt he'll talk to you and confirm the truth or what I'm telling you. I know the three headed space monkey is true.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
charity wrote:I don't see liars behind every bush. What I see is the blind leading the blind. I see deceived people (deceived, ultimately, by Joseph Smith) leading other people to join in and support the deception, but they don't think it's deception, they think it's revelation and faith and all the rest.
Some may think. Some of us know.
No one knows. No one can know. Anyone who claims to know is lying, pure and simple.
harmony wrote:No one knows. No one can know. Anyone who claims to know is lying, pure and simple.
It depends on the meaning of "know." If it means, "I have a strong conviction that what I believe is true and I have had certain feelings and experiences that I believe confirm that conviction," which is the standard usage in LDS circles, then, yes, it's possible to "know."
I used to say the same things charity says, and yet here I stand agreeing with you that no one really knows whereof they speak.
Me, I just figure that if Mormonism is true, it means that God has a really perverted sense of humor.
harmony wrote:No one knows. No one can know. Anyone who claims to know is lying, pure and simple.
It depends on the meaning of "know." If it means, "I have a strong conviction that what I believe is true and I have had certain feelings and experiences that I believe confirm that conviction," which is the standard usage in LDS circles, then, yes, it's possible to "know."
I used to say the same things charity says, and yet here I stand agreeing with you that no one really knows whereof they speak.
Me, I just figure that if Mormonism is true, it means that God has a really perverted sense of humor.
If you've met God do you know?
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
harmony wrote:No one knows. No one can know. Anyone who claims to know is lying, pure and simple.
It depends on the meaning of "know." If it means, "I have a strong conviction that what I believe is true and I have had certain feelings and experiences that I believe confirm that conviction," which is the standard usage in LDS circles, then, yes, it's possible to "know."
I used to say the same things charity says, and yet here I stand agreeing with you that no one really knows whereof they speak.
Me, I just figure that if Mormonism is true, it means that God has a really perverted sense of humor.
No one knows in any meaningful testable reproduceable way. And anyone who says they know is wrong... and lying. Otherwise, the next step is: prove it.
harmony wrote:No one knows. No one can know. Anyone who claims to know is lying, pure and simple.
It depends on the meaning of "know." If it means, "I have a strong conviction that what I believe is true and I have had certain feelings and experiences that I believe confirm that conviction," which is the standard usage in LDS circles, then, yes, it's possible to "know."
I used to say the same things charity says, and yet here I stand agreeing with you that no one really knows whereof they speak.
Me, I just figure that if Mormonism is true, it means that God has a really perverted sense of humor.