The Nehor wrote:On the bright side if there is no God it doesn't matte what he did.
Uh...yeah it does. It matters insofar as Stone was a class-A jerk.
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I had the mistaken impression that the information provided to a Bishop regarding tithes was confidential.
Guess not!
Sick, that Stone would even ask, and even sicker that the Bishop would disclose another's private information like that.
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Guess not!
Sick, that Stone would even ask, and even sicker that the Bishop would disclose another's private information like that.
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As deacons, my friends and I would check the fast offerings to see how much people gave. Some people gave a dollar (tightwads) and others paid more, which brings the thought of maybe the bishop called and said "okay you see, I'm sending my men around you see, and you get picture, put the payment in the envelope, you see, or all HELL will break lose.
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The Nehor wrote:On the bright side if there is no God it doesn't matte what he did.
It mattered to Mario.
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Man, Stone's behavior is so wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to start. He obviously must believe on some level that he is living in Brigham's Mormon kingdom of the 1850s. The way he abused his ecclesiastical office is astounding.
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The judgementalism, the gossiping, the violation of privacy, the violation of business/religion boundaries, the playing of god....ARGHHHHHHHHH
And then the kicker: this sickening story of monumental pomposity is recited as something "inspirational." It would only inspire me to get the hell out of such an organization....
And then the kicker: this sickening story of monumental pomposity is recited as something "inspirational." It would only inspire me to get the hell out of such an organization....
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Sethbag wrote:The Nehor wrote:On the bright side if there is no God it doesn't matte what he did.
It mattered to Mario.
Why? If no raise was due Mario why would it matter?
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Are we to believe that Stone was so anxious for Mario to pay tithing, that he'd essentially pay it for him by giving him a raise? And if the raise was deserved, it was a pretty crummy thing to not give it to him, just because Stone was checking with the bishop about his tithing status. And where was the bishop's "honor" in not discussing a ward member's status without having a real ecclesiastical, not business, reason to do so - since that was obviously Stone's motivation. And if the raise wasn't deserved, what kind of "honor" would a general manager have to give a guy a raise just because he was a tithe-paying Mormon? ("Naturally, I didn't communicate this to anyone." - indeed!)
I also found many other flaws in his various stories (boy, could that guy ramble!). Are we to believe that his son got his job with the "national company" because he didn't eat lunch on a co-workers expense account? I'd bet he would have got the job regardless. And how about the woman who offered to buy him lunch on the expense account - I wouldn't be surprised if, even though she was obviously dishonest (offering expense account lunches, the horror!), she probably also got a job.
And what a stupid story about a temple president refusing to allow the law to be exercised in his building. If the law requires inspections, you allow the inspection. Could you imagine a temple president in the US refusing to allow, say, a building inspector to come in in conduct an inspection required by law? "No, trust me Mr. Inspector, everything is up to code. Don't you worry." "Oh, okay Mr. White Suit - thanks for letting me know. I'll just write that down on my form."
And good to know that the church's purpose in the Dominican Republic is to train good workers. Forget about salvation and all that crap. We want to teach the people how to be prompt!
And refusing a glass of champagne will get you promoted to financial director. Who knew? All those years of refusing champagne, and I never rose about Manager of Operations. Damn!
And I would have liked his story about when he was an Executive VP better if he'd fired all the VPs who came into the meeting late instead of telling them that were inconsiderate.
Oh - and the story about the robber going to get his shoes after 5 years in jail, where the shoe repairman remembered his shoes from five years before -- wouldn't the story have been better if the repairman had actually done the repair when the shoes were brought in, instead of five years later?? After all, he didn't know that the robber was going to be imprisoned. A real man of honor would have said "Ah, here they are. I've been keeping them here for you in case you returned to claim them!" Instead, he couldn't get the job done in five years.
Anyways, what a load of hooey. A bunch of trite fables to inspire the little students.
I also found many other flaws in his various stories (boy, could that guy ramble!). Are we to believe that his son got his job with the "national company" because he didn't eat lunch on a co-workers expense account? I'd bet he would have got the job regardless. And how about the woman who offered to buy him lunch on the expense account - I wouldn't be surprised if, even though she was obviously dishonest (offering expense account lunches, the horror!), she probably also got a job.
And what a stupid story about a temple president refusing to allow the law to be exercised in his building. If the law requires inspections, you allow the inspection. Could you imagine a temple president in the US refusing to allow, say, a building inspector to come in in conduct an inspection required by law? "No, trust me Mr. Inspector, everything is up to code. Don't you worry." "Oh, okay Mr. White Suit - thanks for letting me know. I'll just write that down on my form."
And good to know that the church's purpose in the Dominican Republic is to train good workers. Forget about salvation and all that crap. We want to teach the people how to be prompt!
And refusing a glass of champagne will get you promoted to financial director. Who knew? All those years of refusing champagne, and I never rose about Manager of Operations. Damn!
And I would have liked his story about when he was an Executive VP better if he'd fired all the VPs who came into the meeting late instead of telling them that were inconsiderate.
Oh - and the story about the robber going to get his shoes after 5 years in jail, where the shoe repairman remembered his shoes from five years before -- wouldn't the story have been better if the repairman had actually done the repair when the shoes were brought in, instead of five years later?? After all, he didn't know that the robber was going to be imprisoned. A real man of honor would have said "Ah, here they are. I've been keeping them here for you in case you returned to claim them!" Instead, he couldn't get the job done in five years.
Anyways, what a load of hooey. A bunch of trite fables to inspire the little students.
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When i first read this post, I was thinking Rollo was digging up dirt from a talk years ago. But no, this patented display of dumb-assery was given only a few days ago. This man reminds me of a guy from my home ward who used to get up and publically anounce his god complex during his speaking engagements. Everyone knew how close to translation he was by the time he sat down. Funny how he was eventually imprisoned for fraud. The master abusers and thiefs of this world love honesty. They love to know everyone else is pegged and predictable, so as to better calculate their own game plan. The most reprehensible Cooks, I mean crooks of our world love to make artificial tests. Let's put out 20$ and see if the babysitter takes it? Let's base an employee review on some undisclosed pet peeve or personal obsession?
As for his son, congratulations. But guess what? Plenty of other firms would have overlooked him because he doesn't drink. If you have a company of self-righteous tight ass control freaks, then does it really come as a surprise that the son of this guy, who deals out artificial tests, had been well prepared to play the game of his employer? Some other guys kid who knows how to play quarters also got a job that summer because of his social skills at the bar after a hard day doing law.
The problem with this fool is that he ran a successful business, and he thinks the only way to advance in the world is to be like him.
As for his son, congratulations. But guess what? Plenty of other firms would have overlooked him because he doesn't drink. If you have a company of self-righteous tight ass control freaks, then does it really come as a surprise that the son of this guy, who deals out artificial tests, had been well prepared to play the game of his employer? Some other guys kid who knows how to play quarters also got a job that summer because of his social skills at the bar after a hard day doing law.
The problem with this fool is that he ran a successful business, and he thinks the only way to advance in the world is to be like him.
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