MishMagnet wrote:Joseph Smith was very clear (in my opinion) about where the Book of Mormon took place. How did the general membership come to believe the Book of Mormon took place elsewhere without any higher authority saying so?
Probably because he changed his story when he became aware of the archaeological discoveries coming out of Mesoamerica.
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
Sure metal working was in the Bible. Sure the name NHM was in the Bible. But NHM in the right place, within the right context. Metal working described in a place that fits, with iron ore which is only found in that one little area. It isn't exactly like talking about finding canoes in Minnesota!
First, you need to differentiate between metal working and metallurgy. It is the lack of differentiation that leads to problems when discussing Mesoamerica.
You're acting as if the "place that fits" was outside the cultural context of the larger place that we know practiced metallurgy for a very long time. Moreover, the only reason it's "in the right place" is due to the LDS tendency to find a location that has the element they need, and then drawing a bull's eye around it. That tendency is what resulted in Mesoamerica being selected as the location for the Book of Mormon. It's the only place that had near the population density needed for the Book of Mormon, during the time period. So the bull's eye was drawn around it, despite the many contradictions between the Book of Mormon culture and ancient Mesoamerica.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.
Runtu: Isn't it interesting that the angel with a flaming sword didn't come down to stop the attack at Crooked River or stop the destruction of the Expositor or even to protect Joseph from the mob at Carthage. Nope, the Lord saved his really big guns for the important stuff.
I have always thought the angel and the flaming sword were symbolic.
moksha wrote:I have always thought the angel and the flaming sword were symbolic.
Now who's being naughty?
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
Yeah, I have to say that I was never into having all of my teeth filed into fangs.
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
Runtu wrote: If there is any evidence that the Book of Mormon is true, it completely knocks out any suppositions that is isn't. The old absence of evidence is not evidence of absense.
Read it and weep.
What a laughable and slimy argument. Do you realize how incoherent and disconnected that analogy is?
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
Blixa wrote:You nearly made coffee shoot out my nose, Trevor. As it is I guffawed loudly enough for heads to turn...
Any way you like it, baby.
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
moksha wrote:I have always thought the angel and the flaming sword were symbolic.
I'm afraid not:
"I know whereon I stand, I know what I believe, I know what I know and I know what I testify to you is the living truth. As I expect to meet it at the bar of the eternal Jehovah, it is true. And when you stand before the bar you will know. He preached polygamy and he not only preached it, but he practiced it. I am a living witness to it. It was given to him before he gave it to the Church. An angel came to him and the last time he came with a drawn sword in his hand and told Joseph if he did not go into that principle, he would slay him." - Mary Lightner, Address to Brigham Young University, April 14th, 1905, BYU Archives and Manuscripts