Mercury wrote: Lets look at who the criminal is. Joseph smith, using his brainwashed followers ordered the destruction of a printing press that was getting out the facts of his life.
The printing press deserved to be destroyed. It was superhyping the mob against the Mormons. Sorry but such hateful press deserved to be shut down. Joseph Smith saved lives. And the editors of the Nauvoo Expositor knew exactly what they were doing.
To quote charity, why me:
"So, you think victims of crime are resonsible for being victims?"
Read about this guy and his press in Nazi Germany. The Nauvoo Expositor was an antimormon rag set to print to superfly the mob against Joe Smith. No different from Julius Streicher's newspaper.
why me wrote:Read about this guy and his press in Nazi Germany. The Nauvoo Expositor was an antimormon rag set to print to superfly the mob against Joe Smith. No different from Julius Streicher's newspaper.
While William Law's paper had a sensational tone, much of what he accused Joseph of doing was pretty close to the truth. I think it is wrong to liken Law's exposee of Smith to anti-Semitic literature, when Mormons did not represent a distinct ethnic group, and Law was pretty much a part of the group he was criticizing. Sure, he was excommunicated, but he set up a counter-Church in protest of Joseph Smith's excesses. In many ways, I think he had hoped to reform the LDS Church away from the troubling things going on. Law's role in bringing Smith's downfall is horribly exaggerated. Smith is primarily responsible for taking the hare-brained step of destroying a printing press--a move which confirmed people's worst fears about Smith's anti-democratic rule.
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
Not really. It did not give him lots of extra women. If fact, polygamy gave him a huge headache. What adulation? It came at a high price. A lot of hatred for Joe Smith out there in them there hills at that time. Respect? Tar and feathers know no respect and the list goes on and on.
So why did Joseph Smith continue to marry so many women? I don't recall the sword yielding angel giving him a number he had to reach.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.
why me wrote:Well lets put it this way: the Book of Mormon gave Joseph Smith nothing but trouble.
How do you figure? It also gave Joseph Smith lots of extra women, plenty of money, loads of adulation, copious amounts of respect, and the list goes on and on.
Not really. It did not give him lots of extra women. If fact, polygamy gave him a huge headache. What adulation? It came at a high price. A lot of hatred for Joe Smith out there in them there hills at that time. Respect? Tar and feathers know no respect and the list goes on and on.
Fact: Joseph Smith would have been more successful without the Book of Mormon. His divine calling was one big headache and downer for him. But he rose to the challenge.
Why Me: Joseph Smith had many thousands of devoted followers. Sure, he had some detractors too, and a lot of ex-members who were very vocal in their criticism of him. But he had thousands and thousands of fanatical followers who would have done anything he commanded them. He had dozens of women willing to say yes to his propositions. The fact that Joseph Smith took heat from the ex-members doesn't negate anything that was said about the power and adulation he received at the time. He had people calling him General, Mayor, President, Prophet, and had a quorum of 12 apostles traveling around organizing committees to try to elect him President of the United States. How much more evidence of the adulation and power he had can you possibly ask for?
Mormonism ceased being a compelling topic for me when I finally came to terms with its transformation from a personality cult into a combination of a real estate company, a SuperPac, and Westboro Baptist Church. - Kishkumen
thestyleguy wrote: The Masons got him - that's my theory. He disclosed too much.
Actually the exmormons got him. They spread their hatred and the hatred took. The Nauvoo Expositor was going to be one more hate rag until Joseph Smith with town council approval had it destroyed. And I do believe that William Law had his hand in the paper.
It would be no different today, right? We also have diehard exmos today who would have led the charge against Joe Smith. Nothing changes...only the year.
The printing press the the straw that broke the camel's back. You want me to list what he did prior to that incident: he was pretty much wanted in any state he set foot in for breaking the law.
Blixa wrote:So Trevor, you're saying William Law wasn't fly? He wasn't all that and a bag of chips?
Er, uh... I think I am saying that he was pretty fly for an ex-Mo guy.
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”