Origins of the Book of Mormon

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Doctor Steuss wrote:I like big Bibles.


...and I cannot lie.
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why me wrote:Read about this guy and his press in Nazi Germany. The Nauvoo Expositor was an antimormon rag set to print to superfly the mob against Joe Smith. No different from Julius Streicher's newspaper.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... icher.html


OK, this is beyond the pale. Have you even read the Expositor? Something is seriously wrong with you if you think the florid little moralizing paper William Law published can be compared to Streicher and Nazi propaganda. Whatever credibility you had has officially evaporated.
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why me wrote:
Mercury wrote:
Lets look at who the criminal is. Joseph smith, using his brainwashed followers ordered the destruction of a printing press that was getting out the facts of his life.


The printing press deserved to be destroyed. It was superhyping the mob against the Mormons. Sorry but such hateful press deserved to be shut down. Joseph Smith saved lives. And the editors of the Nauvoo Expositor knew exactly what they were doing.


You are trying to justify a criminal. You are wrong on all accounts.

Those who ran the Nauvoo expositor were heroes exposing a fraud.
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Why me:

Have you ever read the Nauvoo Expositor?

(Hearing stories told about it in Priesthood Meeting doesn't count. Have you actually read it for yourself?)
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Dr. Shades wrote:Why me:

Have you ever read the Nauvoo Expositor?

(Hearing stories told about it in Priesthood Meeting doesn't count. Have you actually read it for yourself?)


One thing that I found really interesting about the Nauvoo Expositor (at least from what I recall when I read it) was that they still maintained the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:One thing that I found really interesting about the Nauvoo Expositor (at least from what I recall when I read it) was that they still maintained the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon.


That's exactly right. These were men who thought that the true church was being corrupted by sinful men. They wanted to fix it, not destroy it.
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Runtu wrote:
why me wrote:Read about this guy and his press in Nazi Germany. The Nauvoo Expositor was an antimormon rag set to print to superfly the mob against Joe Smith. No different from Julius Streicher's newspaper.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... icher.html


OK, this is beyond the pale. Have you even read the Expositor? Something is seriously wrong with you if you think the florid little moralizing paper William Law published can be compared to Streicher and Nazi propaganda. Whatever credibility you had has officially evaporated.


Anyone who would compare the Nauvoo Expositor to Nazi propoganda has never read the Nauvoo Expositor. Funny thing is, based on what we know now, the Nauvoo Expositor was simply exposing the truth. Imagine that, a newspaper digging up the truth and publishing it to the masses. Isn't that sorta the goal of every newspaper?
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SatanWasSetUp wrote:
Runtu wrote:
why me wrote:Read about this guy and his press in Nazi Germany. The Nauvoo Expositor was an antimormon rag set to print to superfly the mob against Joe Smith. No different from Julius Streicher's newspaper.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... icher.html


OK, this is beyond the pale. Have you even read the Expositor? Something is seriously wrong with you if you think the florid little moralizing paper William Law published can be compared to Streicher and Nazi propaganda. Whatever credibility you had has officially evaporated.


Anyone who would compare the Nauvoo Expositor to Nazi propoganda has never read the Nauvoo Expositor. Funny thing is, based on what we know now, the Nauvoo Expositor was simply exposing the truth. Imagine that, a newspaper digging up the truth and publishing it to the masses. Isn't that sorta the goal of every newspaper?


does reading the FARMS review of the Nauvoo Expositor count as reading the actual thing ???
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evolving wrote:does reading the FARMS review of the Nauvoo Expositor count as reading the actual thing ???


Not just "no," but "Hell no."
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evolving wrote:
SatanWasSetUp wrote:
Runtu wrote:
why me wrote:Read about this guy and his press in Nazi Germany. The Nauvoo Expositor was an antimormon rag set to print to superfly the mob against Joe Smith. No different from Julius Streicher's newspaper.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... icher.html


OK, this is beyond the pale. Have you even read the Expositor? Something is seriously wrong with you if you think the florid little moralizing paper William Law published can be compared to Streicher and Nazi propaganda. Whatever credibility you had has officially evaporated.


Anyone who would compare the Nauvoo Expositor to Nazi propoganda has never read the Nauvoo Expositor. Funny thing is, based on what we know now, the Nauvoo Expositor was simply exposing the truth. Imagine that, a newspaper digging up the truth and publishing it to the masses. Isn't that sorta the goal of every newspaper?


does reading the FARMS review of the Nauvoo Expositor count as reading the actual thing ???


To an apologist, yes. It does.
And crawling on the planet's face
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
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