Two questions that will make social conservatives think....

Post by **_asbestosman** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:06 pm

Bond...James Bond wrote:Alright...time for a real head scratcher.

Would you rather......be 6 ft tall and really ugly, or 3 ft tall and really handsome/beautiful?

3 ft tall abnd really handsome. I'm tired of being the other.

Post by **_Bond...James Bond** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:07 pm

asbestosman wrote:
Bond...James Bond wrote:Alright...time for a real head scratcher.

Would you rather......be 6 ft tall and really ugly, or 3 ft tall and really handsome/beautiful?

3 ft tall abnd really handsome. I'm tired of being the other.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! (Me too)

Post by **_Ren** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:10 pm

So if I had to waterboard a terrorist (or get the red hot pokers after them, or kill them) to save my family's lives, I'd probably do it. I think most people's families are something that most people would go all out for in a way they wouldn't go all out for strangers. I mean sure it's wrong, but its human (in my case anyway).

Hmmm. I'd say that if there is some kind of 'sure-fire' knowledge that torturing a guilty person had a very good chance of saving a whole bunch of lives, I think there is a solid moral case for going ahead with that torture. I'm not so sure there is a need to say 'Oh - I know it's wrong, but it's my family'.

I think the real probem there is simply a practical one. By saying torture is 'sometimes' justified, you unfailingly open the door to 'morally dubious' stuff anyway...

It's a tough call for me actually...

Post by **_asbestosman** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:10 pm

RenegadeOfPhunk wrote:Wow abs. We'd be living in a pretty damn restricted world. Some people's consciences are pretty easily upset...

It's not about upsetting someone else's conscience. I mean sure, go ahead and drink coffee, alcohol and whatnot so long as you drinking it does not violate your own conscience.

I know of very few people whose conscience bothers them when they are asked not to bother other people. Fred Phelps perhaps, but that's why I made that stipulation about consciences not requiring one to kill all Jews or something.

So the distinction I make is in violating your own conscience by doing what you find immoral, not in allowing others to do things you find immoral which is something I think people just need to live with if society is going to have any hope of working.

Post by **_barrelomonkeys** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:11 pm

Bond...James Bond wrote:Alright...time for a real head scratcher.

Would you rather......be 6 ft tall and really ugly, or 3 ft tall and really handsome/beautiful?

Oh! Ack.

Hmm... Uh. Hm.

If I was 6 ft tall and really ugly can I give myself other attributes like being brainy? Like SUPER DUPER brainy?

Or an astronaut, or something cool?

Post by **_Ren** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:14 pm

asbestosman wrote:So the distinction I make is in violating your own conscience by doing what you find immoral, not in allowing others to do things you find immoral which is something I think people just need to live with if society is going to have any hope of working.

Oh OK- I get what you're saying...

Post by **_Bond...James Bond** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:14 pm

RenegadeOfPhunk wrote:I think the real probem there is simply a practical one. By saying torture is 'sometimes' justified, you unfailingly open the door to 'morally dubious' stuff anyway...

It's a tough call for me actually...

Yeah.....it's a tough spot (even when thinking it) and you wonder if it be a slippery slope.....which I guess is why it's hard to say when it comes to these theoretical questions. *shrug*

Post by **_Scottie** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:14 pm

Bond...James Bond wrote:Alright...time for a real head scratcher.

Would you rather......be 6 ft tall and really ugly, or 3 ft tall and really handsome/beautiful?

Well, since women all claim to not be superficial (hearty laugh there...), it shouldn't matter, right?

Post by **_Bond...James Bond** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:16 pm

barrelomonkeys wrote:
Bond...James Bond wrote:Alright...time for a real head scratcher.

Would you rather......be 6 ft tall and really ugly, or 3 ft tall and really handsome/beautiful?

Oh! Ack.

Hmm... Uh. Hm.

If I was 6 ft tall and really ugly can I give myself other attributes like being brainy? Like SUPER DUPER brainy?

Or an astronaut, or something cool?

You're not allowed to bargain but.... (You're an insurance underwriter with average brains. You watch Jeopardy, but don't answer most of them cause you don't recognize alot of the things being asked....so you hold a paperback and pretend to be reading.)

Post by **_Ren** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:20 pm

Bond...James Bond wrote:Alright...time for a real head scratcher.

Would you rather......be 6 ft tall and really ugly, or 3 ft tall and really handsome/beautiful?

I'd go 6 foot and ugly. I mean if your 3 foot, you ain't no Brad Pitt, no matter how pretty you are.
So you may as well be able to reach the top shelf...