Quote from the book, Take Back Your Life

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Quote from the book, Take Back Your Life

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"A matter we hope to shed light on in the book is the danger wrought by the so-called apologists. These individuals (mostly academics) allege that cults do no harm, and that reports of emotional or psychological damage are exaggerations or even fabrications on the part of the disgruntled former members."- Take Back Your Life: Recovering from Cults and Abusive Relationships by Janja Lalich
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Re: Quote from the book, Take Back Your Life

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msnobody wrote:"A matter we hope to shed light on in the book is the danger wrought by the so-called apologists. These individuals (mostly academics) allege that cults do no harm, and that reports of emotional or psychological damage are exaggerations or even fabrications on the part of the disgruntled former members."- Take Back Your Life: Recovering from Cults and Abusive Relationships by Janja Lalich


Somehow I doubt this book will be available at Deseret Book.
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Re: Quote from the book, Take Back Your Life

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msnobody wrote:"A matter we hope to shed light on in the book is the danger wrought by the so-called apologists. These individuals (mostly academics) allege that cults do no harm, and that reports of emotional or psychological damage are exaggerations or even fabrications on the part of the disgruntled former members."- Take Back Your Life: Recovering from Cults and Abusive Relationships by Janja Lalich


I think that the above attributes total denial to apologists. If that is so, how is it healthy to attempt to support the foundations of the (in this case I'm assuming you are applying it to the LDS Church) Church which is purportedly Christian by discounting the experiences and feelings associated with those experiences, of others? That alone, in my view, is a form of emotional and psychological abuse.
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Re: Quote from the book, Take Back Your Life

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Jersey Girl wrote:
msnobody wrote:"A matter we hope to shed light on in the book is the danger wrought by the so-called apologists. These individuals (mostly academics) allege that cults do no harm, and that reports of emotional or psychological damage are exaggerations or even fabrications on the part of the disgruntled former members."- Take Back Your Life: Recovering from Cults and Abusive Relationships by Janja Lalich


I think that the above attributes total denial to apologists. If that is so, how is it healthy to attempt to support the foundations of the (in this case I'm assuming you are applying it to the LDS Church) Church which is purportedly Christian by discounting the experiences and feelings associated with those experiences, of others? That alone, in my view, is a form of emotional and psychological abuse.


Makes me juggle emotional/psychological abuse, cog dis, conditioned thinking, and perhaps denial. It would be hard to choose just one. I tend to vacillate between anger and empathy.
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Re: Quote from the book, Take Back Your Life

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msnobody wrote:"A matter we hope to shed light on in the book is the danger wrought by the so-called apologists. These individuals (mostly academics) allege that cults do no harm, and that reports of emotional or psychological damage are exaggerations or even fabrications on the part of the disgruntled former members."- Take Back Your Life: Recovering from Cults and Abusive Relationships by Janja Lalich


Can someone please tell me how to recover from excessive government taxation? I'd pay handsomely for such a book.
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msnobody wrote:"A matter we hope to shed light on in the book is the danger wrought by the so-called apologists. These individuals (mostly academics) allege that cults do no harm, and that reports of emotional or psychological damage are exaggerations or even fabrications on the part of the disgruntled former members."- Take Back Your Life: Recovering from Cults and Abusive Relationships by Janja Lalich


That's the thing about apologists... they know just enough to be dangerous, and that's it. Apologists, by definition, are sorry characters.
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Re: Quote from the book, Take Back Your Life

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Some Schmo wrote:
msnobody wrote:"A matter we hope to shed light on in the book is the danger wrought by the so-called apologists. These individuals (mostly academics) allege that cults do no harm, and that reports of emotional or psychological damage are exaggerations or even fabrications on the part of the disgruntled former members."- Take Back Your Life: Recovering from Cults and Abusive Relationships by Janja Lalich


That's the thing about apologists... they know just enough to be dangerous, and that's it. Apologists, by definition, are sorry characters.


You suck!!!!!!!!!

Okay, don't become an Apologist and refute that or you'll be sorry and suck.
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Are there really cult apologists? Nobody wants to be that dude in a cult.
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Re: Quote from the book, Take Back Your Life

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The Nehor wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:
msnobody wrote:"A matter we hope to shed light on in the book is the danger wrought by the so-called apologists. These individuals (mostly academics) allege that cults do no harm, and that reports of emotional or psychological damage are exaggerations or even fabrications on the part of the disgruntled former members."- Take Back Your Life: Recovering from Cults and Abusive Relationships by Janja Lalich


That's the thing about apologists... they know just enough to be dangerous, and that's it. Apologists, by definition, are sorry characters.


You suck!!!!!!!!!

Okay, don't become an Apologist and refute that or you'll be sorry and suck.


How's that brain abscess coming along? Are you talking to the walls too, yet? (I guess I should ask, are the walls talking to you yet?)
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MishMagnet wrote:Are there really cult apologists? Nobody wants to be that dude in a cult.


Of course there are! That's what MAD is: a place for cult apologists. And it sure seems to me they want to be exactly that (although they don't actually refer to the church as a cult... it's sort of counterproductive from an apologist's standpoint).
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