Materials: Some kind of messy candy, Paper towel and wetwipes to clean up with. Activity:Ask a few class members to close there eyes. Tell them that you will place a object in the hands of the first class member, and that they should each in turn feel the object, with there eyes closed, closely examining the object until they think they know what it is. Once they have it figured out they should pass the object to the next person in line. this continues until each student has an opportunity to hold the candy. All the while the candy is getting messier and messier. When the last student is finished with it you hold it up in front of the class so they can see it and ask if any one would like to eat it. The candy is likened to ones morality and that if you begin passing it around freely it becomes messy until eventually nobody wants it. Explain to the students it is important to keep your morality sacred until you get married so you don't risk ruining such a wonderful thing. It can also be pointed out that not only the candy (or person represented by the candy), but also every person who handled it became messy.
Holy s***!! Are you kidding me?? Now, not only is the slut dirty, but anyone who affiliates with the slut is dirty as well???
At least it's equal opportunity dirtiness. :)
"reason and religion are friends and allies" - Mitt Romney
Zoidberg wrote:LOAP, although sticking to the manual is encouraged, the teachers are not forbidden from using other resources, including object lessons. And look what this Church-owned website is linking to: the messy candy object lesson!
Scroll down and click on the Gospel Teacher's Resource Page link. (Actually, whoever made this little treasure thinks it's "Gospil", not "Gospel"). Then "Get an Idea" and "Morality".
Materials: Some kind of messy candy, Paper towel and wetwipes to clean up with. Activity:Ask a few class members to close there eyes. Tell them that you will place a object in the hands of the first class member, and that they should each in turn feel the object, with there eyes closed, closely examining the object until they think they know what it is. Once they have it figured out they should pass the object to the next person in line. this continues until each student has an opportunity to hold the candy. All the while the candy is getting messier and messier. When the last student is finished with it you hold it up in front of the class so they can see it and ask if any one would like to eat it. The candy is likened to ones morality and that if you begin passing it around freely it becomes messy until eventually nobody wants it. Explain to the students it is important to keep your morality sacred until you get married so you don't risk ruining such a wonderful thing. It can also be pointed out that not only the candy (or person represented by the candy), but also every person who handled it became messy.
Oh yeah, and here's some more evidence of lay members equating morality with abstinence we've been talking about.
Nice. Solid proof that these things are a part of Mormon culture. Of course those of us who've attended church and youth activities know these object lessons are a regular part of hurch. We were bombarded with these stupid lessons all our life. I sometimes wonder which church the apologists attended, because it is so foreign to my experience. It seems apologists attended wards with no silly object lessons about morality, they discussed Joseph Smith's polyandry in gospel doctrine class, the Book of Mormon took place in a Limited Geography and they read from Sorensen in class, blacks were always welcomed pre-1978 and they all knew the multitudes of black members in their ward would get the priesthood soon, and the Egyptian Papyri were on display during the Book of Abraham debate clubs held after the feminist intellectual musings meeting on Sunday evenings. I am beginning to become suspicious of these guys. Maybe they never attended church. Perhaps they are inactives who know the church is true and want to defend it on the internet.
"We of this Church do not rely on any man-made statement concerning the nature of Deity. Our knowledge comes directly from the personal experience of Joseph Smith." - Gordon B. Hinckley
"It's wrong to criticize leaders of the Mormon Church even if the criticism is true." - Dallin H. Oaks
Book of Mormon wrote:I love being that piece of sticky sweet, messy, candy. And it's been my experience that the messier I am the more some wanna get a taste for themselves.
See? That's the real truth everyone wants to deny here.
MishMagnet wrote:Loap, I can't seem to take any offense to anything you say due to your avatar.
Speaking of your avatar, LifeOnAPlate, what the Hell is that thing, anyway?
SatanWasSetUp wrote:I sometimes wonder which church the apologists attended, because it is so foreign to my experience. It seems apologists attended wards with no silly object lessons about morality, they discussed Joseph Smith's polyandry in gospel doctrine class, the Book of Mormon took place in a Limited Geography and they read from Sorensen in class, blacks were always welcomed pre-1978 and they all knew the multitudes of black members in their ward would get the priesthood soon, and the Egyptian Papyri were on display during the Book of Abraham debate clubs held after the feminist intellectual musings meeting on Sunday evenings. I am beginning to become suspicious of these guys. Maybe they never attended church. Perhaps they are inactives who know the church is true and want to defend it on the internet.
Boy, ain't that the truth! Hence my observation that Internet Mormons and Chapel Mormons are members of two entirely separate religions.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
SatanWasSetUp wrote:Nice. Solid proof that these things are a part of Mormon culture. Of course those of us who've attended church and youth activities know these object lessons are a regular part of hurch. We were bombarded with these stupid lessons all our life. I sometimes wonder which church the apologists attended, because it is so foreign to my experience. It seems apologists attended wards with no silly object lessons about morality, they discussed Joseph Smith's polyandry in gospel doctrine class, the Book of Mormon took place in a Limited Geography and they read from Sorensen in class, blacks were always welcomed pre-1978 and they all knew the multitudes of black members in their ward would get the priesthood soon, and the Egyptian Papyri were on display during the Book of Abraham debate clubs held after the feminist intellectual musings meeting on Sunday evenings. I am beginning to become suspicious of these guys. Maybe they never attended church. Perhaps they are inactives who know the church is true and want to defend it on the internet.
Amen to this! All of it!
In my ward in California, we would have "Standards Nights" at least twice a year. These would be entire Mutual activities for the Young Women focusing completely on the virtue of chastity with object lessons like the one described or something similar.
Frankly, I don't have anything against promoting chastity before marriage. But there are ways to do that without making young women who have experienced sex, or who have been sexually abused, feel like trash.
liz3564 wrote:Frankly, I don't have anything against promoting chastity before marriage. But there are ways to do that without making young women who have experienced sex, or who have been sexually abused, feel like trash.
Totally agree.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
MishMagnet wrote:Loap, I can't seem to take any offense to anything you say due to your avatar.
Speaking of your avatar, LifeOnAPlate, what the Hell is that thing, anyway?
It's Mr. Grey Spaceman. According to his friend, "he wasn't always gray, spending a little while on earth turned him gray." [which I don't understand, since he's actually green.]
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
LifeOnaPlate wrote:It's Mr. Grey Spaceman. According to his friend, "he wasn't always gray, spending a little while on earth turned him gray." [which I don't understand, since he's actually green.]
LifeOnaPlate wrote:It's Mr. Grey Spaceman. According to his friend, "he wasn't always gray, spending a little while on earth turned him gray." [which I don't understand, since he's actually green.]
I thought it was a variation of the bat child:
haha nice
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
liz3564 wrote:Frankly, I don't have anything against promoting chastity before marriage. But there are ways to do that without making young women who have experienced sex, or who have been sexually abused, feel like trash.
Totally agree.
Thanks, LifeOnaPlate.
;)
Do you have any idea why Church members on the MAD board are so resistant to this? Don't you think it would make sense to try to make changes, and talk about solutions instead of putting heads in the sand, and claiming the problem doesn't exist?
The reason I was frustrated with your initial response earlier was because you didn't think this was that widespread of an issue, therefore, not a particularly important concern.
I think that even if it isn't a significantly widespread problem...the fact that it is a problem, and has affected several hundred Church members, is, in itself, significant, and should be addressed.
