Two more bite the dust!

[_The Dude]

A genetic testing lab just released data that according to DNA testing, Mosiah Hancock and Oliver Buell, the darlings of the polyandry crowd, are definately NOT Joseph Smith's offspring.

So you would have, like, lost your testimony if DNA had shown them to be Joseph Smith's offspring? LOL

Like Beastie said, why the heck do you care? We all know Joseph probably had sex with some of these women and we don't need living offspring to prove it.

[_Dr. Shades]

A genetic testing lab just released data that according to DNA testing, Mosiah Hancock and Oliver Buell, the darlings of the polyandry crowd, are definately NOT Joseph Smith's offspring.

How do you know this?

Sounds like another mopologetic urban legend to me.

[_charity]

How do you know this?

Sounds like another mopologetic urban legend to me.

http://deseretnews.com/article/1%2C5143 ... %2C00.html

So what do we find in this thread?

Lies: Polygamy Porter says that there are children proven to be Joseph's. Not so. Everyone tested so far as been proven not to be a descendant.

Truth: PP also said this, "What goes around comes around. In Joseph's case, he got exactly what he deserved."

He got exaltation in the Celestial Kingdom. "Mingling with gods he can plan for his brethren. Millions shall know Brother Joseph again." Likewise Brother Brigham. I agree. He got what he deserved.

Same old same old: If it shoots down a anti-argument, it didn't matter in the first place. Of course, Fawn Brodie was absolutely convinced due to her research that Buell was Joseph's offspring. It just pokes a hole in one of her crediblitiy balloons.

Does it matter? Not to LDS. It isn't a sin to have sex with your wife. God knows who was what. And it is God's opinion that matters in this. Not yours. Not mine.

But I thought it would be interesting, so I posted it.

[_beastie]

Same old same old: If it shoots down a anti-argument, it didn't matter in the first place. Of course, Fawn Brodie was absolutely convinced due to her research that Buell was Joseph's offspring. It just pokes a hole in one of her crediblitiy balloons.

You're kidding. Is this a joke? It doesn't shoot down an anti-argument, by your own admission.

Joseph Smith could have had sex with any of his wives and been justified doing so. So the existence or nonexistence of children is completely irrelevant, and has nothing to do with whether or not sex was taking place. In other words, Buell could have been Joseph's child... and this pokes a hole in her credibility?

So if Joseph Smith was justified having sex with his wives, and the polyandrous wives were continuing to have sex with their husbands....I don't think it's Brodie's credibility that has been poked.

[_CaliforniaKid]

Truth: PP also said this, "What goes around comes around. In Joseph's case, he got exactly what he deserved."

Agreed.

Mormon 4:5: But, behold, the judgments of God will overtake the wicked; and it is by the wicked that the wicked are punished; for it is the wicked that stir up the hearts of the children of men unto bloodshed.

[_Polygamy Porter]

Lies: Polygamy Porter says that there are children proven to be Joseph's. Not so. Everyone tested so far as been proven not to be a descendant.

Truth: PP also said this, "What goes around comes around. In Joseph's case, he got exactly what he deserved."

Sorry charity, but I said neither of those. Check the battery in your hearing aid and adjust your quad-focals...

Does it matter? Not to LDS. It isn't a sin to have sex with your wife. God knows who was what. And it is God's opinion that matters in this. Not yours. Not mine.

Problem is this charity, the laws of the land(ya know.. the ones that Smith said he obeyed?) only recognized one woman in his life AS a WIFE. So any sex with those others was adulterous, no?

[_charity]

Sorry charity, but I said neither of those. Check the battery in your hearing aid and adjust your quad-focals...

Does it matter? Not to LDS. It isn't a sin to have sex with your wife. God knows who was what. And it is God's opinion that matters in this. Not yours. Not mine.

Problem is this charity, the laws of the land(ya know.. the ones that Smith said he obeyed?) only recognized one woman in his life AS a WIFE. So any sex with those others was adulterous, no?

Yea, I noticed the edit.

God owns the world. His laws are supreme.

[_Polygamy Porter]

Sorry charity, but I said neither of those. Check the battery in your hearing aid and adjust your quad-focals...

Does it matter? Not to LDS. It isn't a sin to have sex with your wife. God knows who was what. And it is God's opinion that matters in this. Not yours. Not mine.

Problem is this charity, the laws of the land(ya know.. the ones that Smith said he obeyed?) only recognized one woman in his life AS a WIFE. So any sex with those others was adulterous, no?

Yea, I noticed the edit.

God owns the world. His laws are supreme.

What does that mean? How can that align with the 12th AoF?

[_charity]

Sorry charity, but I said neither of those. Check the battery in your hearing aid and adjust your quad-focals...

Does it matter? Not to LDS. It isn't a sin to have sex with your wife. God knows who was what. And it is God's opinion that matters in this. Not yours. Not mine.

Problem is this charity, the laws of the land(ya know.. the ones that Smith said he obeyed?) only recognized one woman in his life AS a WIFE. So any sex with those others was adulterous, no?

Yea, I noticed the edit.

God owns the world. His laws are supreme.

What does that mean? How can that align with the 12th AoF?

Did you read where I said the latest thinking is that apostate Mormons and vociferous critics are very rigid in their thinking?

[_Polygamy Porter]

Sorry charity, but I said neither of those. Check the battery in your hearing aid and adjust your quad-focals...

Does it matter? Not to LDS. It isn't a sin to have sex with your wife. God knows who was what. And it is God's opinion that matters in this. Not yours. Not mine.

Problem is this charity, the laws of the land(ya know.. the ones that Smith said he obeyed?) only recognized one woman in his life AS a WIFE. So any sex with those others was adulterous, no?

Yea, I noticed the edit.

God owns the world. His laws are supreme.

What does that mean? How can that align with the 12th AoF?

Did you read where I said the latest thinking is that apostate Mormons and vociferous critics are very rigid in their thinking?

Take the tap shoes off charity.

Are the Mormon god's laws above the laws of the land? If so, why did Woodruff bow to the demands of the US government and abandon the practice of polygamy?