Two more bite the dust!

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_Jersey Girl
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charity
So what do we find in this thread?

Lies: Polygamy Porter says that there are children proven to be Joseph's. Not so. Everyone tested so far as been proven not to be a descendant.


Nowhere on this thread did Porter say or even imply that.

charity
Truth: PP also said this, "What goes around comes around. In Joseph's case, he got exactly what he deserved."


harmony said that.
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Jersey Girl wrote:charity
So what do we find in this thread?

Lies: Polygamy Porter says that there are children proven to be Joseph's. Not so. Everyone tested so far as been proven not to be a descendant.


Nowhere on this thread did Porter say or even imply that.

charity
Truth: PP also said this, "What goes around comes around. In Joseph's case, he got exactly what he deserved."


harmony said that.
Is there an echo in here?
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Re: Two more bite the dust!

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Polygamy Porter wrote:Take the tap shoes off charity.

Are the Mormon god's laws above the laws of the land? If so, why did Woodruff bow to the demands of the US government and abandon the practice of polygamy?


Do you not understand that the Church was in the position of breaking one law or the other until something changed? Now if you think God should have sent fire down from Heaven and consumed the Supreme Court, isn't that a different discussion from this one?
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Porter
Sorry charity, but I said neither of those. Check the battery in your hearing aid


Why, are you podcasting your posts?


Porter
and adjust your quad-focals...


Tired old schtick.
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Jersey Girl wrote:Porter
Sorry charity, but I said neither of those. Check the battery in your hearing aid


Why, are you podcasting your posts?


Porter
and adjust your quad-focals...


Tired old schtick.
What are you saying? Podcasting? where?

by the way, your avatar is out of season.
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charity wrote:
Polygamy Porter wrote:Take the tap shoes off charity.

Are the Mormon god's laws above the laws of the land? If so, why did Woodruff bow to the demands of the US government and abandon the practice of polygamy?


Do you not understand that the Church was in the position of breaking one law or the other until something changed? Now if you think God should have sent fire down from Heaven and consumed the Supreme Court, isn't that a different discussion from this one?


Why not? He, after all, had Elijah slay the priests of Baal who got in his way. He killed the Egyptian army so that Moses could escape. He drown millions of his children because he was pissed off at them. He likewise either burnt, buried, or drown untold thousands of his children in the Americas because he was likewise not pleased with them. He had Nehpi cut off Laban's head. He commanded Saul to murder every man, woman, and child of conquered cities. God has a very well established record of killing people who displease him or get in his way. Why not the Supreme Court?

Perhaps in the interim, God's started taking Prozac or some other medicine to handle his wild, murderous mood swings.

Or, do those sort of things only happen in fairy tales?
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I suppose I did not understand Charity's initial remark. Is there a crowd still championing polyandry? I thought this practice was long abandoned, except possibly on the pages of our own off topic forum.
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Did you read where I said the latest thinking is that apostate Mormons and vociferous critics are very rigid in their thinking?


Acting in accordance to its own stated guidelines = rigid thinking

So would members be able to get temple recommends if they rejected "rigid thinking" and drank wine now and then?
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charity wrote:A genetic testing lab just released data that according to DNA testing, Mosiah Hancock and Oliver Buell, the darlings of the polyandry crowd, are definately NOT Joseph Smith's offspring.


Charity, a question.

Which would be more disturbing to you? To learn that Joseph Smith had sex with his wives? Or to learn that he didn't?

It's unclear to me why anyone defending Joseph Smith or the church he organized would think sexless marriage was a good thing, or be celebrating any possible evidence that might indicate that his relationships with "wives" was entirely platonic.
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Post by _truth dancer »

I could be wrong here but...

I get the sense that no one cares if Joseph Smith had sex with all of the women and girls he attached to him.

I think the implications that are probelmatic are that the women who were already married were sleeping with more than one man.

In other words, while lots of guys are OK with polygamy, the idea that their wives can be sleeping with other men feels uncomfortable.

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