Gramps meets the missionaries on campus

[_barrelomonkeys]

I'd make a great Mormon.

I don't drink, don't smoke, not having any premarital sex (right now), don't drink coffee, do exercise. Just don't buy the bull I guess.

Well, as soon as I stop smoking I'll be right there with ya!

Oh, wait. I can't give up coffee! Never mind.

Hee. At what point do we realize that we collectively suck and are pathetic?

Oh, I already realized that myself. Do you need a gentle reminder? ;)

[_Polygamy Porter]

I'd make a great Mormon.

I don't drink, don't smoke, don't smoke dope or take any drugs that aren't prescribed (by a doctor), not having any premarital sex (right now), don't drink coffee, do exercise. Just don't buy the bull I guess.

Yeah but, do you wank? That could be a problem during the baptismal interview ;)

As for not buying into the bull, no matter, look at Nephi, he does not either and he is a Mormon... even drinks beer!

[_Nephi]

I'd make a great Mormon.

I don't drink, don't smoke, don't smoke dope or take any drugs that aren't prescribed (by a doctor), not having any premarital sex (right now), don't drink coffee, do exercise. Just don't buy the bull I guess.

Yeah but, do you wank? That could be a problem during the baptismal interview ;)

As for not buying into the bull, no matter, look at Nephi, he does not either and he is a Mormon... even drinks beer!

Unless you are married; pretty much anything goes once you are married, so long as you both agree upon it.

[_Gazelam]

Unless you are married; pretty much anything goes once you are married, so long as you both agree upon it

Sure Nephi, the God given ability to create life can just be all slutted up in your bedroom as long as your married.

Get a clue.

At no point in your life are you more like God than when you are acting as a creator and caring for and nurturing your creation. In nothing are you held more accountable and expected to succeed in. And in this process you think it fun and amusing to treat your wife like a whore, playing out your fantasies and abusing your role as a husband and Father.

No wonder you drink, Im sure it dulls the senses enough for you to justify your actions.

[_Polygamy Porter]

Unless you are married; pretty much anything goes once you are married, so long as you both agree upon it

Sure Nephi, the God given ability to create life can just be all slutted up in your bedroom as long as your married.

Get a clue.

At no point in your life are you more like God than when you are acting as a creator and caring for and nurturing your creation. In nothing are you held more accountable and expected to succeed in. And in this process you think it fun and amusing to treat your wife like a whore, playing out your fantasies and abusing your role as a husband and Father.

No wonder you drink, I'm sure it dulls the senses enough for you to justify your actions.

Sweet, nothing like watching two Mormons duke it out.

[_gramps]

I like your new avatar, Gramps!

KA

Why, thank you, my dear!

Have you figured out who it is?

[_gramps]

Unless you are married; pretty much anything goes once you are married, so long as you both agree upon it

Sure Nephi, the God given ability to create life can just be all slutted up in your bedroom as long as your married.

Get a clue.

At no point in your life are you more like God than when you are acting as a creator and caring for and nurturing your creation. In nothing are you held more accountable and expected to succeed in. And in this process you think it fun and amusing to treat your wife like a whore, playing out your fantasies and abusing your role as a husband and Father.

No wonder you drink, I'm sure it dulls the senses enough for you to justify your actions.

Hey Gaz, just what is slutty and what isn't?

So, when you are role-playing your future godhood in the bedroom, which position is ok? and which is not?

Enquiring minds want to know!

[_beastie]

No kidding, Gaz, I want to know too.

This is what I used to think of as "Holy Sex". God has Holy Sex, and wants us to have Holy Sex, too - but the question is: what constitutes Holy Sex? Are some acts forbidden? Or do you have to think about God while doing it? And are you supposed to not lust after your spouse during sex?

[_gramps]

heh... Guess its a lil different here in good ole Kentucky (the lowest tax on tobacco in the US, now). We all are familiar with the program, even if you are not a missionary. I went through this program when I joined the church, and it worked for me. If you have any questions, I am all ears.

Tell us about the program!

Is it for investigators only? If not, do they try to assess whether they think one will become an investigator before spending time with that person?

I have a hard time believing that this program is not just a round a bout way to get converts. What did you sense going through it?

Thanks in advance for your answers.

[_Nephi]

heh... Guess its a lil different here in good ole Kentucky (the lowest tax on tobacco in the US, now). We all are familiar with the program, even if you are not a missionary. I went through this program when I joined the church, and it worked for me. If you have any questions, I am all ears.

Tell us about the program!

Is it for investigators only? If not, do they try to assess whether they think one will become an investigator before spending time with that person?

I have a hard time believing that this program is not just a round a bout way to get converts. What did you sense going through it?

Thanks in advance for your answers.

Well, I have never seen it taught to those who are not investigators, and I will say that ones who do the program and it works have a better chance of wanting to join the church after the fact, but the program is rather simple:

It works on the idea of Pavlov's Dogs, i.e, conditioned responses. If you look at how your smoking habits are, you want cigarettes after a specific stimuli has occurred. For instance, I wanted a smoke after eating and when driving, so to get rid of these things, we just need to change the stimulus, or change how we respond.

Example would be when I was done eating, I would crave a cigarette, so (instead) I would immediately brush my teeth and wash my mouth out with cinnamon mouth wash. This changed the flavor of my mouth, and changed the stimulus so that I was not craving a cigarette.

They also suggest taking a buncha vitamin C to help "clean out your system", which it does not, but it is psycho-somatic. Of course, there is a buncha praying, but basically the meat of the program is to change the conditioned response to specific stimuli.