What do you find odd about the Book of Mormon?

Post by **_Abinadi's Fire** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:56 pm

No man. I don't want a cookie.

This actually sucks for me.

Post by **_Doctor Steuss** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:05 am

Abinadi's Fire wrote:No man. I don't want a cookie.

This actually sucks for me.

I take it your “rejection” was fairly recent then, and you’re still trying to sort it all out?

I hope you’re able to find resolution/peace soon. There was actually a recent thread where people talked about the emotional path they went on (I think it was started by John W).

Best of luck,
Stu

Edited to add:
Here's the thread http://mormondiscussions.com/discuss/vi ... php?t=3789

Post by **_Abinadi's Fire** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:12 am

Doctor Steuss wrote:
Abinadi's Fire wrote:No man. I don't want a cookie.

This actually sucks for me.

I take it your “rejection” was fairly recent then, and you’re still trying to sort it all out?

I hope you’re able to find resolution/peace soon. There was actually a recent thread where people talked about the emotional path they went on (I think it was started by John W).

The "sorting it all out," for me, manifests itself in a way of sorting out how to tell the people I care about what I now see, or even if I should, based on their reaction.

Even predicting their reaction is painfully obvious.

Post by **_Maxrep** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:14 am

What about the population growth rates in the Book of Mormon? I remember reading about how the increase of the Nephite and Lamanite peoples was unmatched anywhere in the world as far as the growth rates of an agrarian society during similar time periods.

Post by **_Sethbag** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:16 am

Maxrep wrote:What about the population growth rates in the Book of Mormon? I remember reading about how the increase of the Nephite and Lamanite peoples was unmatched anywhere in the world as far as the growth rates of an agrarian society during similar time periods.

All that magically goes away if you buy in to the "others" arguments. That is, the Lehites were just a small minority of people who joined in, then dominated somehow, a large pre-existing population of people who were already there.

Post by **_Doctor Steuss** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:17 am

Abinadi's Fire wrote:The "sorting it all out," for me, manifests itself in a way of sorting out how to tell the people I care about what I now see, or even if I should, based on their reaction.

To a small extent, I can relate (very small probably, but some nonetheless). Despite my still maintaining belief, there are things that I constantly kind of "bite my tongue" about with my family. Mormonism works for them, and what they know/believe works for them; and as such, I try not to rock their pleasure cruise.

Even predicting their reaction is painfully obvious.

If the reaction is already known, perhaps a different approach would work... or less predictable people (?)

Post by **_Maxrep** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:16 am

Sethbag wrote:
Maxrep wrote:What about the population growth rates in the Book of Mormon? I remember reading about how the increase of the Nephite and Lamanite peoples was unmatched anywhere in the world as far as the growth rates of an agrarian society during similar time periods.

All that magically goes away if you buy in to the "others" arguments. That is, the Lehites were just a small minority of people who joined in, then dominated somehow, a large pre-existing population of people who were already there.

Yes, yes, I know about the others. :) But I'm not buying it because that's not the version I grew up on. There's no bait and switch for me.

Here is the ridiculous thing: we both know there was no such thing as Lamanites and Nephites, yet we will debate with the apologists as to why or why not "others" could have existed, where the Hill Cumorah is located, and how much the gold plates weighed. Yet, in some convoluted way there seems to be a compelling logic behind establishing the "facts" that could exist in this "fantasy". Ha ha, its crazy!

Here is why the others couldn't have existed in my opinion:

It would have provided a story line too interesting to overlook.

"And it came to pass that we did travel for the space of many days, that we might find more ore to smelt, insomuch that we did fall upon a curious people. We did call them the Peculites, for they were peculiar unto us, and they did raise all manner of beasts, the Koala, the Panda, the Giraffe, and the Tasmanian devil.

Nevertheless, we got right down to business teaching them of Christ, well - because we talk of Christ, we preach of Christ and yada yada. We did preach to them unceasingly that they did not eat or sleep for the space of three days. And I did inquire of them, "what desirest though"? And their chief among them sayest, "We desire to go down to the waters of Yukanuba", for such they were called, "and be baptized".

So there are conversion opportunities for the heathens to take part in, maybe they have some fair daughters that need to be married off among the Nephites, the possibilities go on.... Bottom line for me is that "others" wouldn't have been skipped over.

Post by **_Always Thinking** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:39 am

Oh, come on! you just gotta change your paradigm!!

No big.

;-)

Post by **_LifeOnaPlate** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:57 am

One thing I find odd about the Book of Mormon is its ability to draw someone in to the point they join on online community and spend hours a week talking about it and making fun of it. That's captivating!

Post by **_Maxrep** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:06 am

LifeOnaPlate wrote:One thing I find odd about the Book of Mormon is its ability to draw someone in to the point they join on online community and spend hours a week talking about it and making fun of it. That's captivating!

No, that's mainly a function of being BIC, not as much to do with Book of Mormon.