I need some old time religion from the eighties.

[_bcspace]

Church seems so watered down these days. The diluted doctrine taught in Sunday school today can't keep me awake. I was raised on high octane Mormonism!

Amen! Me too.

What happened to the church of the eighties? Its almost like an episode of mythbusters yanked the rug out from under us.

The Church has become femminized. Have you ever noticed how a child raised by a single mother alone often is inordinately concerned about fair play and runs from conflict? Well, we men in the Church have become whipped, too concerned with hurting someone else's feeling by our comments and too weak to handle disagreement. If we keeping holding back like some do, more of us will end up going postal. ;)

[_truth dancer]

Hey BC...

The Church has become femminized. Have you ever noticed how a child raised by a single mother alone often is inordinately concerned about fair play and runs from conflict? Well, we men in the Church have become whipped, too concerned with hurting someone else's feeling by our comments and too weak to handle disagreement. If we keeping holding back like some do, more of us will end up going postal. ;)

This is one of the oddest things I have ever read on this board.

I'm not sure if you are being silly, sarcastic, cynical... or (hopefully not), serious?

Certainly Jesus did not come across as anything like the power hungry, ego focused, glory worshipping, domineering, "who cares about women", lets rule the earth, guys who think they represent the divine.

You seem to suggest, (hopefully in jest) that women are weak, can't handle disagreement, and have a "problem" with caring about others and wanting to be fair?

What do you mean, "we men" (other men besides yourself?) will "go postal" if you don't stop holding back?

Seriously this sounds creepy BC... what are you talking about here? What do you think you need to do so you won't "go postal"?

Do you need to get some help?

~dancer~

[_skippy the dead]

Hey BC...

The Church has become femminized. Have you ever noticed how a child raised by a single mother alone often is inordinately concerned about fair play and runs from conflict? Well, we men in the Church have become whipped, too concerned with hurting someone else's feeling by our comments and too weak to handle disagreement. If we keeping holding back like some do, more of us will end up going postal. ;)

This is one of the oddest things I have ever read on this board.

I'm not sure if you are being silly, sarcastic, cynical... or (hopefully not), serious?

Certainly Jesus did not come across as anything like the power hungry, ego focused, glory worshipping, domineering, "who cares about women", lets rule the earth, guys who think they represent the divine.

You seem to suggest, (hopefully in jest) that women are weak, can't handle disagreement, and have a "problem" with caring about others and wanting to be fair?

What do you mean, "we men" (other men besides yourself?) will "go postal" if you don't stop holding back?

Seriously this sounds creepy BC... what are you talking about here? What do you think you need to do so you won't "go postal"?

Do you need to get some help?

~dancer~

That was an odd post, wasn't it? I can't figure out what is intended.

[_moksha]

The Church has become feminized. Have you ever noticed how a child raised by a single mother alone often is inordinately concerned about fair play and runs from conflict? Well, we men in the Church have become whipped, too concerned with hurting someone else's feeling by our comments and too weak to handle disagreement. If we keeping holding back like some do, more of us will end up going postal. ;)

Right on!. Remember those days when a dual - from fisticuffs to clubs and guns - could settle a disagreement, the manly way. None of that womanly diplomacy and reason was needed back them. Conservative men know that rules of Blood and Iron are eternally the same.

[_Dr. Shades]

Yes, that post by bcspace was extremely wierd.

The first thing I thought after reading it was, "I wonder how Truth Dancer will react to this?" :-)

The second thing I thought after reading it was, "This reminds me of when rcrocket inferred that someone was female with the intent to insult."

[_Maxrep]

The first thing I thought after reading it was, "I wonder how Truth Dancer will react to this?" :-)

"

YES, that's what I was thinking too!

TD can take care of herself, that's for sure. For quite some time I've felt confident that if women were allowed to function in some of the more authoritative callings within the church, that we would be much better off.

[_truth dancer]

Hi Shades...

The first thing I thought after reading it was, "I wonder how Truth Dancer will react to this?" :-)

LOL! You had to wonder? (smile)

To be honest, my first thought was... if BC is serious this sounds a little dangerous.

My second thoughts was... do guys like this still exist? (smile)

Ohhh but this board is a lot of fun Shades! ;-)

~dancer~

[_truth dancer]

Hi Maxrep...

YES, that's what I was thinking too!

LOL!

TD can take care of herself, that's for sure. For quite some time I've felt confident that if women were allowed to function in some of the more authoritative callings within the church, that we would be much better off.

On a serious note, I do think the universe is one of balance, harmony, the whole yin/yang idea. :-) Whenever life (or existence) is out of balance nothing quite works as it should... there seems to be a call for a return to a more healthy way of existing... or to put it in more secular terms, maybe a return to homeostasis.

This male dominant, control with power and might, fight, kill, destroy, overtake, etc. etc. ethos seems to be maladaptive to our species. I'm sensing a consciousness that is moving toward a more harmoneous way of existing. (OK, it may be a few millennia away... smile).

~dancer~

[_harmony]

This male dominant, control with power and might, fight, kill, destroy, overtake, etc. etc. ethos seems to be maladaptive to our species. I'm sensing a consciousness that is moving toward a more harmoneous way of existing. (OK, it may be a few millennia away... smile).

From your thoughts to God's ears. And let's hope the Brethren actually ask!

[_bcspace]

None of you is correct. When I say the Church has become feminized, it is in the context that both male and female aspects are necessary. Not one or the other alone.

It is to that effect that we have become overly sensitve especially with regard to lessons in the Church. The unstated rule is that there must be no debate and no disagreement because we then are in opposition to "the more spiritually in tuned woman".

There is, in Mormon mythology (which does exist), the notion that women are more spiritual than men and men go along with it! The fact is that the sexes are capable of equal spirituality, just expressed in different ways.