The Nehor wrote:No, I meant they've said they've seen him and one described his reaction to such an encounter. None shared any details though about what he or they said, just that it happened.
This is downright impossible. That Christ would appear to a handful of men, mention nothing about the state of his siblings, give no instruction about fixing the state of his siblings, and then disappear again is unthinkable.
Nope. What you propose is impossible.
[edited to add] And we know nothing was said about Christ's siblings because nothing has changed in the way the church deals with the poor, the widowed, the downtrodden. Had something changed, I'd believe this anecdote. Since it didn't, I don't. By their fruits. And our LDS leaders have no fruits worth mentioning.
That's assuming Christ didn't come to share something about the Apostle in question with the Apostle. It's always about the whole Church isn't it?
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The Nehor wrote:No, I meant they've said they've seen him and one described his reaction to such an encounter. None shared any details though about what he or they said, just that it happened.
This is downright impossible. That Christ would appear to a handful of men, mention nothing about the state of his siblings, give no instruction about fixing the state of his siblings, and then disappear again is unthinkable.
Nope. What you propose is impossible.
[edited to add] And we know nothing was said about Christ's siblings because nothing has changed in the way the church deals with the poor, the widowed, the downtrodden. Had something changed, I'd believe this anecdote. Since it didn't, I don't. By their fruits. And our LDS leaders have no fruits worth mentioning.
That's assuming Christ didn't come to share something about the Apostle in question with the Apostle. It's always about the whole Church isn't it?
Well, the Savior appears so seldom... You would think He'd do it for bit-time reasons, rather than simply giving one of the Apostles a pep talk, or whatever.
Mister Scratch wrote:Well, the Savior appears so seldom... You would think He'd do it for bit-time reasons, rather than simply giving one of the Apostles a pep talk, or whatever.
That assumes that he only appears seldomly.
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Mister Scratch wrote:Well, the Savior appears so seldom... You would think He'd do it for bit-time reasons, rather than simply giving one of the Apostles a pep talk, or whatever.
Bond...James Bond wrote:Maybe Jesus shaved his head to cover for the hereditary baldness that ran through his family.
I guess this also settles the long-held question about whether the contemporary Brethren have actually seen Christ or not. At minimum, I guess Elder Holland has.
Not necessarily. Notice how he phrased it. "The last time I saw him, he didn't." Well, if the last time he saw him was never, this could still be a true statement.
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Bond...James Bond wrote:Maybe Jesus shaved his head to cover for the hereditary baldness that ran through his family.
I guess this also settles the long-held question about whether the contemporary Brethren have actually seen Christ or not. At minimum, I guess Elder Holland has.
Not necessarily. Notice how he phrased it. "The last time I saw him, he didn't." Well, if the last time he saw him was never, this could still be a true statement.
Lol... Um, no. His statement clearly contained information suggestion an actual visitation (i.e., the detail's of Christ's appearance). Then again, it seems pretty clear that Holland was lying, so I guess this is a moot point.
Mister Scratch wrote:Well, the Savior appears so seldom... You would think He'd do it for bit-time reasons, rather than simply giving one of the Apostles a pep talk, or whatever.
That assumes that he only appears seldomly.
There is no evidence to indicate otherwise.
Oh there's plenty but it requires living the gospel and living among the spiritually powerful so you know those who have. They don't run to the Deseret News when it happens.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Mister Scratch wrote:Well, the Savior appears so seldom... You would think He'd do it for bit-time reasons, rather than simply giving one of the Apostles a pep talk, or whatever.
That assumes that he only appears seldomly.
There is no evidence to indicate otherwise.
Oh there's plenty but it requires living the gospel and living among the spiritually powerful so you know those who have. They don't run to the Deseret News when it happens.
It also requires either a predisposition toward mental health problems or anti-social behavior, pathological lying etc..
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
Inconceivable wrote: I'll defer to your recollections. I bought it all when a missionary.
When I got there in '82, the mission had already changed from a 4 hour (BD) conversion to a 7 day conversion schedule. It didn't work at all either. The BD experiment was also done in Victoria.
You served your mission in Sydney? Did you ever get to the South Coast?
Inconceivable wrote:sorry everyone for the off topic bantor.
Gadianton wrote: It also requires either a predisposition toward mental health problems or anti-social behavior, pathological lying etc..
Nyuck, nyuck, nycuk!
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