guy sajer wrote:For what it's worth, I do not believe this ever happened. I think that some of you are putting to much credence into a 5th hand, or something like that, tall tale.
I hope you're right. Otherwise, the only other avenue is the unthinkable: that he lied.
Gadianton wrote:Why is Nehor having meetings with apostles?
I suppose he's not willing to lay down the chips on which ones directly claimed to have these experiences. I have, through reliable second-hand sources, very good reason to believe none of them believe that they've ever seen Jesus.
Nehor, not to be a jerk or anything, but u ever been on any kind of medication, anti-depressents, anything like that?
Why is everyone always asking me that? I suppose I did ask JAK first and he never responded. Yes, I have. I was on Vicodin for kidney stones and various other medications throughout the years for injuries. Have I ever been on a non-injury or physical illness regimen? No. I have never needed mood controlling medication nor have I ever been diagnosed with any psychological problems.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
LifeOnaPlate wrote: I have no idea whether or not Nehor has seen Christ.
Christ has never manifested himself to me in the flesh for all those interested. One day.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
LifeOnaPlate wrote:I have no idea whether or not Nehor has seen Christ.
Do you believe that Elder Holland---or any of the Brethren---have seen Christ in the flesh? Y/N?
Although not addressed to me I will say yes, several of them have and have told me so in meetings I've attended.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
LifeOnaPlate wrote:I have no idea whether or not Nehor has seen Christ.
Do you believe that Elder Holland---or any of the Brethren---have seen Christ in the flesh? Y/N?
Although not addressed to me I will say yes, several of them have and have told me so in meetings I've attended.
Why, if you don't mind my asking, were you "meeting" with Apostles? I am curious about what sort of context would be necessary for Apostles to discuss such sacred experiences.
LifeOnaPlate wrote:I have no idea whether or not Nehor has seen Christ.
Do you believe that Elder Holland---or any of the Brethren---have seen Christ in the flesh? Y/N?
Although not addressed to me I will say yes, several of them have and have told me so in meetings I've attended.
And people wonder why I don't trust them.
Hello? What meetings? Where's the transcript? Where's the evidence that Christ has visited? Where's the emphasis on the Top 15 living a Christ-like life? Where's the repentence, since they obviously don't? Where's the proof, the deeds, the wisdom? What do they have to show that they were worthy of a personal visitation? N-O-T-H-I-N-G!
Mister Scratch wrote: Why, if you don't mind my asking, were you "meeting" with Apostles? I am curious about what sort of context would be necessary for Apostles to discuss such sacred experiences.
It wasn't a personal one on one meeting but they weren't recorded or broadcasted either. They were leadership meetings, Mission conferences, local appearances for specialized groups (in my cases youth and YSA).
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Mister Scratch wrote: Why, if you don't mind my asking, were you "meeting" with Apostles? I am curious about what sort of context would be necessary for Apostles to discuss such sacred experiences.
It wasn't a personal one on one meeting but they weren't recorded or broadcasted either. They were leadership meetings, Mission conferences, local appearances for specialized groups (in my cases youth and YSA).
Nehor, if you're really that gullible, I have a real estate deal I've saving for you.
LifeOnaPlate wrote:I have no idea whether or not Nehor has seen Christ.
Do you believe that Elder Holland---or any of the Brethren---have seen Christ in the flesh? Y/N?
Although not addressed to me I will say yes, several of them have and have told me so in meetings I've attended.
And people wonder why I don't trust them.
Hello? What meetings? Where's the transcript? Where's the evidence that Christ has visited? Where's the emphasis on the Top 15 living a Christ-like life? Where's the repentence, since they obviously don't? Where's the proof, the deeds, the wisdom? What do they have to show that they were worthy of a personal visitation? N-O-T-H-I-N-G!
It didn't happen. :-(
There were no transcripts but I do have notes from all those meetings. You go to General Conference and haven't heard people describing how to live a Christ-like life? How do you know they don't repent? Do you expect them to announce it? I sure don't.
Proof? What do you expect them to bring? His toenail clippings? Deeds? What deeds are required of someone who meets Christ? i assume whatever he told them to do. I suspect that might be why they travel all over the world and often have meetings explaining the gospel and exhorting others to change their lives for the better. Wisdom? I don't know how you judge that.
Worthy of a personal visitation? Didn't know there was a standard there. I just assume Jesus comes when he chooses to. I've invited him to come visit me. So far, no joy.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo