thestyleguy wrote:You can't know true happiness unless you are a true blue Mormon. I don't know if it is inferred or implied or just plain stated but it's wrong and hopefully mercy won't rob justice a certain people will get their due.
I would greatly qualify that premise. I think there are some who could find the exact opposite of true happiness if they had to belong to the Church.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
Dr. Shades wrote:Looks like Scottie is a prophet. He wrote:
Scottie wrote:I'm pretty sure DCP and his ilk will claim that they have NEVER EVER heard this said in church, even though this is standard fare for the rest of us.
And now Jason Bourne writes:
Jason Bourne wrote:Who says this?
I am not sure I am of the same class as DCP. So I asked a question....who says that? I never said I never even heard not did I. Big deal. I have heard people say that they are happy and believe this is the way to happiness and rank and file members say that this is the best way to be happy. I bet I have said it myself a number of years ago. But this is more hyperbole and expression of feelings of devotion.
And guess what? For people that believe and feel it this is a true statement since happiness is really perspective. Thus it is not a lie for them at all.
lets see: I went to a fireside where the guy passed around a phoney plate that was suppose to belong to his great grandparent in missouri or something. A "plant" in the audience broke the plate. Everyone was stunned. Nothing but silence. After a minute or so of pouting on the stand the guy said that it was just a normal plate and everyone felt this great relief. Then the guy asked how we felt when we heard the plate break and most people said stunned and sad. He said that is the way we should feel when we see nonmembers. We should feel sorry for them. This is normal for the Mormon church. These are not made up stories but mind games that most have experienced. Those that go to a protestant church or some other church don't have the head games played on them like the youth of the Mormon church. Perfection is expected which turns most of the youth into liars when asked if they are "worthy".
You can't know true happiness unless you are a true blue Mormon. I don't know if it is inferred or implied or just plain stated but it's wrong and hopefully mercy won't rob justice a certain people will get their due.
All true happiness begins with getting a life and letting others live theirs. Don't worry about what Mormons may or may not think about ultimate metaphysical conditions such as this.
Don't you have a hobby to occupy your time?
The face of sin today often wears the mask of tolerance.
You can't know true happiness unless you are a true blue Mormon. I don't know if it is inferred or implied or just plain stated but it's wrong and hopefully mercy won't rob justice a certain people will get their due.
All true happiness begins with getting a life and letting others live theirs. Don't worry about what Mormons may or may not think about ultimate metaphysical conditions such as this.
Don't you have a hobby to occupy your time?
I'm not the one that needs to worry ;) and I'm thinking about building model planes again, but better than when I was a kid.
and as for getting a life - it's hard when you have people on Sunday dictating what should occur in your life. Remember that little scene where the baby elephant can't break the chain so later on in life he still thinks the chain is more powerful, not knowing really how powerful he is - there are a lot of elephants on the loose and thousands are breaking the chains every month.
Coggins7 wrote:All true happiness begins with getting a life and letting others live theirs. Don't worry about what Mormons may or may not think about ultimate metaphysical conditions such as this.
I agree with this, but it seems that your LDS culture is different than what we have here in Zion. Around here, it's the Mormons that are getting into everybody else's business, not the other way around.
The Nehor wrote:What is the difference between 'true happiness' and regular happiness?
That is an awesome follow up question. Unfortunately, nobody ever asked it in my ward.
"We of this Church do not rely on any man-made statement concerning the nature of Deity. Our knowledge comes directly from the personal experience of Joseph Smith." - Gordon B. Hinckley
"It's wrong to criticize leaders of the Mormon Church even if the criticism is true." - Dallin H. Oaks
thestyleguy wrote:You can't know true happiness unless you are a true blue Mormon. I don't know if it is inferred or implied or just plain stated but it's wrong and hopefully mercy won't rob justice a certain people will get their due.
Who says this?
I heard it from my mom, my bishop, and my mission president.