Daily Universe defends BYU football player ....

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Daily Universe defends BYU football player ....

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See link below. In a nutshell, BYU wide receiver, Austin Collie, who caught a 49-year touchdown pass (on 4th down) to help BYU down the Utes last Saturday, made some public comments that many took as 'God favors BYU over the U. because BYU is more righteous.' A pretty interesting article -- note how Collie brings up the race card at the end.

http://newsnet.BYU.edu/story.cfm/66482
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Post by _karl61 »

this is the best part of that site:

http://newsnet.BYU.edu/brmb-e.asp

everything else rings/reeks of a preadolescent thought process!
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I like Collie's actual comment:

Jesus' favorite wide receiver wrote:I wouldn't say it was lucky. We executed the play well. We should have had another one [touchdown]. Obviously, if you do what's right on and off the field, I think the Lord steps in and plays a part in it. Magic happens.


Ahh, magical thinking. God blessed Devin Hester this weekend as well. He returned two kicks for touchdowns against the hated Broncos. Eli Manning must have been a bad boy last week, given his problem with constantly throwing the ball to the other team. Magical thinking makes everything make sense.
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God explains his role in sports:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF--G1zmyTw

Note: BYU is not favored.
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Note: The Lord stepping in, etc. is a sad thing to see discussed in light of football.
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LifeOnaPlate wrote:Note: The Lord stepping in, etc. is a sad thing to see discussed in light of football.


*climbing up on my soapbox*

This is a stellar example of the BYU attitude. "We are special", "We are the chosen generation", "God loves us so much he used his magic to help us win a stupid game against another group of his children who are ALSO chosen and special, they just go to the wrong school". ARGH! As if God has nothing to do except make sure the Blue Cougs win a dumb game. No hungry children to feed, no wars to negociate, no murders to stop, no rapes to defend against...no no no! God is making sure BYU wins!

Dumb! Dumb! and it disgusts me that my tithing dollar supports this idiot's education, such as it obviously is! Somebody please take that boy in hand and explain to him that God had NOTHING to do with it! And while they're at it, please explain that football has absolutely NOTHING to do with real life (and I can say that because my son still plays semi-pro).

*climbing down from my soapbox*
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harmony wrote:
LifeOnaPlate wrote:Note: The Lord stepping in, etc. is a sad thing to see discussed in light of football.


*climbing up on my soapbox*

This is a stellar example of the BYU attitude. "We are special", "We are the chosen generation", "God loves us so much he used his magic to help us win a stupid game against another group of his children who are ALSO chosen and special, they just go to the wrong school". ARGH! As if God has nothing to do except make sure the Blue Cougs win a dumb game. No hungry children to feed, no wars to negociate, no murders to stop, no rapes to defend against...no no no! God is making sure BYU wins!

Dumb! Dumb! and it disgusts me that my tithing dollar supports this idiot's education, such as it obviously is! Somebody please take that boy in hand and explain to him that God had NOTHING to do with it! And while they're at it, please explain that football has absolutely NOTHING to do with real life (and I can say that because my son still plays semi-pro).

*climbing down from my soapbox*


From http://www.mudrow.org/Herb/FKM1.html

Nazi Mormons comprise roughly eight percent of the Church's population. They seem more prolific and tend to congregate in particular wards, although this may actually be a misperception arising from the fact that NMs tend to be incredibly verbose and annoying, thereby creating the illusion of numbers.

Nazi Mormons believe that BYU is not only Gods university, but that He is somehow also an alumnus. Nazi Mormons hang flags, wear badges, and sport license plates, all adorned with a block letter "Y"-known in LM circles as the "Mormon swastika".

NMs are prone to long winded and weepy testimony meeting claims about things that cannot be proven either in the world of science, logic, or even the scriptures. Roughly 45 percent of testimony meetings, Church-wide, are taken up by the NMs, claiming they were spared a particular trial by virtue of their garments, a rolled up copy of the Ensign, or the influence of a junior high school seminary teacher.

Nazi Mormons believe partaking of the sacrament with the left hand is displeasing to God. Only vitamin-enriched white bread should be used for the sacrament, and no NM would ever bring anything other than Cheerios to church to keep small children quiet. Froot Loops, Doritos, and M&Ms are for the less faithful.

NMs believe that Diet Coke is the same thing as heroin, but not as bad as self mutilation. French kissing, even within the bounds of marriage, is unwholesome and quite possibly grounds for a bishop's court.

NMs pay tithing based on their gross income, including the things they receive from the bishop's storehouse. NMs are also big on blessings-not so much the actual blessing itself but rather the attendant sub-ordinance of telling everyone about it.

Families are central to NMs, who have an average of 11.9 children. This perhaps stems from an over-eager interpretation of Church counsel that families are forever, coupled with a fundamental NM desire to stay in constant practice. Also, NMs believe that all birth control, including the rhythm method, is of the devil and his influence, commonly referred to by the rest of the world as common sense. A counterbalance of Nazi Mormons is that NMs by their very overbearing nature tend to raise up a surprising number of Liberal Mormons and even non-Mormon offspring.

NMs not only believe everything a general authority utters, they will frequently take these counsels and improve on them. For example, if no single dating until the age of sixteen is good, no single dating until eighteen is even better.

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harmony wrote:
LifeOnaPlate wrote:Note: The Lord stepping in, etc. is a sad thing to see discussed in light of football.


*climbing up on my soapbox*

This is a stellar example of the BYU attitude. "We are special", "We are the chosen generation", "God loves us so much he used his magic to help us win a stupid game against another group of his children who are ALSO chosen and special, they just go to the wrong school". ARGH! As if God has nothing to do except make sure the Blue Cougs win a dumb game. No hungry children to feed, no wars to negociate, no murders to stop, no rapes to defend against...no no no! God is making sure BYU wins!

Dumb! Dumb! and it disgusts me that my tithing dollar supports this idiot's education, such as it obviously is! Somebody please take that boy in hand and explain to him that God had NOTHING to do with it! And while they're at it, please explain that football has absolutely NOTHING to do with real life (and I can say that because my son still plays semi-pro).

*climbing down from my soapbox*


OK rant, except that you make it sound as though there's a god that actually does step in and feed hungry children, negotiate wars, stop murders, and defend against rapes. It's not as though he makes his presence known any more at these events than he does at football games.
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Re: Daily Universe defends BYU football player ....

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Rollo Tomasi wrote:See link below. In a nutshell, BYU wide receiver, Austin Collie, who caught a 49-year touchdown pass (on 4th down) to help BYU down the Utes last Saturday, made some public comments that many took as 'God favors BYU over the U. because BYU is more righteous.' A pretty interesting article -- note how Collie brings up the race card at the end.

http://newsnet.BYU.edu/story.cfm/66482


Rollo's Dictionary:

A Pretty interesting article = How many more threads do I have to do before you all hate Mormons as much as I do???
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Re: Daily Universe defends BYU football player ....

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Ray A wrote:Rollo's Dictionary:

A Pretty interesting article = How many more threads do I have to do before you all hate Mormons as much as I do???

Huh? I love Mormons -- I just found this kid particularly odd.
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-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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