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charity wrote:*Yawn* Another veiled attempt to smear the Church?
Rollo do you need to re-learn that great underlying principle of stats? CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION.
Especially when it is a second degree corrleation. Utah is the most depressed state. Utah is 71% Mormon. Mormons are more depressed than anybody else.
Your correlation is bunk. Rhode Island is in the bottom 9 states for depression. They are 63% Catholic. Kentucky is in that bottom list. Largest religion denomination is Methodist. Other states on the bottom 9 list their largtest denomination as Catholic, as well--Nevada and OHio. Oklahoma, in the bottom nine lists Southern Baptist as their largest denomination.
Rollo is as bad as Scratch in this sense. Back in the day, this used to be called "yellow journalism", and it was closely associated with either a lack of intellectual integrity or a lack of intellect.
Now, my ad hominem aside, suppose Rollo explains this:
According to the survey data, rates of past-year major depressive episodes for adults were among the highest in Utah and Rhode Island (about 10 percent each), while Hawaii and New Jersey had the lowest rates (6.7 percent and 6.8 percent, respectively).
http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/cont ... /42/15/5-a
http://www.masspsy.com/leading/0708_9_ne_datastate.html
If the high rates of depression in Utah are causally associated with the Mormon religion, to what, pray tell me, are similar high rates in Rhode Island associated, and what are the causal factors creating the low rates of depression in Hawaii and, of all places, New Jersey (New York's rate is near Utah's, at 9.2 among 12 to 17 year olds and 7.3 among adults)?
Move on, nothing to see here.
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Coggins7 wrote:charity wrote:*Yawn* Another veiled attempt to smear the Church?
Rollo do you need to re-learn that great underlying principle of stats? CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION.
Especially when it is a second degree corrleation. Utah is the most depressed state. Utah is 71% Mormon. Mormons are more depressed than anybody else.
Your correlation is bunk. Rhode Island is in the bottom 9 states for depression. They are 63% Catholic. Kentucky is in that bottom list. Largest religion denomination is Methodist. Other states on the bottom 9 list their largtest denomination as Catholic, as well--Nevada and OHio. Oklahoma, in the bottom nine lists Southern Baptist as their largest denomination.
Rollo is as bad as Scratch in this sense. Back in the day, this used to be called "yellow journalism", and it was closely associated with either a lack of intellectual integrity or a lack of intellect.
Now, my ad hominem aside, suppose Rollo explains this:According to the survey data, rates of past-year major depressive episodes for adults were among the highest in Utah and Rhode Island (about 10 percent each), while Hawaii and New Jersey had the lowest rates (6.7 percent and 6.8 percent, respectively).
http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/cont ... /42/15/5-a
http://www.masspsy.com/leading/0708_9_ne_datastate.html
If the high rates of depression in Utah are causally associated with the Mormon religion, to what, pray tell me, are similar high rates in Rhode Island associated, and what are the causal factors creating the low rates of depression in Hawaii and, of all places, New Jersey (New York's rate is near Utah's, at 9.2 among 12 to 17 year olds and 7.3 among adults)?
Move on, nothing to see here.
Rollo posted a link.
Coggy are you really so stupid to think that Rollo wrote this article? I know Charity is.
I think it would be morally right to lie about your religion to edit the article favorably.
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Coggins7 wrote:Move on, nothing to see here.
Of course. Move on before any real investigation into the matter is done. Dismiss it out of hand. Spoken like a true scientist, Coggins.
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charity wrote:Rollo Tomasi wrote:charity wrote:Drop the condescending feminist junk.
I was simply trying to be charitable, darlin'. You need to relax a little more.
If I knew who you were, I would charge you with sexual harrassment. Were you always a chavinist pig, or did that happen after you became an apostate?
So now it is a crime to call a female a female?
Charity, do you bother to think before you type?
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Bryan Inks wrote:So now it is a crime to call a female a female?
Charity, do you bother to think before you type?
When she belongs to an organization, the LDS Church, that holds her and every other LDS woman in golden shackles, it is hilarious to watch her complain that someone is calling her darlin'.
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Re: depression
Trevor wrote: Excellent point, ubermarie. I think you are right on target on several points (multi-factorial problem and GP's dispensing Prozac really standing out in my mind).
Thanks, Trevor. The first time I read this I thought, what?! General Authorities are now prescribing Prozac!? Oh. Wait. GP's.
Time to pop another pill!
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Bryan Inks wrote:charity wrote:Rollo Tomasi wrote:charity wrote:Drop the condescending feminist junk.
I was simply trying to be charitable, darlin'. You need to relax a little more.
If I knew who you were, I would charge you with sexual harrassment. Were you always a chavinist pig, or did that happen after you became an apostate?
So now it is a crime to call a female a female?
Charity, do you bother to think before you type?
Maybe you don't realize that "darlin'," and "cupcake" and "sweethear" ad nausem are ways that men pat women on the head and dismiss them to the kitchen.
"Darlin" is not a term of respect. And tomasi meant it just the way I took it.
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Trevor wrote:Bryan Inks wrote:So now it is a crime to call a female a female?
Charity, do you bother to think before you type?
When she belongs to an organization, the LDS Church, that holds her and every other LDS woman in golden shackles, it is hilarious to watch her complain that someone is calling her darlin'.
I am respected and put on equal footing with men in the Church. I am referred to as Sister Charity. When I speak in ward council I am listened to and my ideas are considered.
"Darlin" is the good old boy term for their pets.
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charity wrote:I am respected and put on equal footing with men in the Church. I am referred to as Sister Charity. When I speak in ward council I am listened to and my ideas are considered.
"Darlin" is the good old boy term for their pets.
How did you know that all the top brass at the LDS Church call each other Sister Charity behind closed doors!?!?!?!
But seriously. You don't make the final decisions, charity. Men holding the priesthood may listen to you, but they don't have to do what you say. Everything always goes back to a man. Men make the decisions and women abide by them. You can pretend that you are on equal footing with the men, but you are only fooling yourself.
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