Sethbag wrote:What was it like for Joseph Smith to have a young, buxom, pretty-faced woman brought into his room for a private interview, and then, with a somber demeanor, to tell her that God had given her to him as part of the restoration of the pattern of marriage shown by Old Testament prophets. And then for her to be nervous, wring her hands, look away, blush, perhaps even cry a little, but after a little pushing, and prodding, maybe telling her that God would kill him if she wouldn't marry him, or that her whole family's salvation would be guaranteed if she would consent, or maybe explaining to her that as God's prophet, whatever you told her she should accept as right because God was telling it to her through him, she consents. What a rush! What was it like? The adrenaline. The move in, the push for the finish line, the victory! She's accepted! She didn't want to, but she came around alright, just like 30 or 40 of the women he'd previously done this to. Damn, this never gets old, does it? And oh boy, here comes Brigham and Heber for the secret ceremony. Ok, the ceremony's over. Heber's set up a room for us in the back.
Next morning. Darling, was it good for you too? I had a great time. What's your name again? I have your number, I'll call you sometime.
All in a day's work for God's vice-regent on earth.
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
Gazelam wrote:What view did the world have of God before the First Vision? A monstrous doctrine of Trinity, a God who is composed of three beings in one, unknowable, invisible, unapproachable, incomprehensible.
Not that I am a huge fan of Trinitarian doctrine, but did you ever think that your characterization of it was a tad, say, offensive?
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
Gazelam wrote:What view did the world have of God before the First Vision? A monstrous doctrine of Trinity, a God who is composed of three beings in one, unknowable, invisible, unapproachable, incomprehensible.
Not that I am a huge fan of Trinitarian doctrine, but did you ever think that your characterization of it was a tad, say, offensive?
Even if the trinitarian doctrine were to be less accurate than the LDS version the characterization is just plain wrong. I know Gazalem did not originate it. It is repeated from the pulpit from that church which does not attack other churchs. Instead it uses lies like this as a form of strong armed propaganda.
Gazelam wrote:I had no intention of highjacking your thread, I felt the subject matter was the same, the character and contributions of Joseph Smith. I think a good measure of his character would be his contributions to Christianity.
I thought this point was returning to. I could not disagree more when you contend that Joseph's "contributions to Christianity" are a good measure of his character. There is little or no necessary connection between a person's creativity and achievements and his or her character.
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
Gazelam wrote:I had no intention of highjacking your thread, I felt the subject matter was the same, the character and contributions of Joseph Smith. I think a good measure of his character would be his contributions to Christianity.
I thought this point was returning to. I could not disagree more when you contend that Joseph's "contributions to Christianity" are a good measure of his character. There is little or no necessary connection between a person's creativity and achievements and his or her character.
Apologies then, I'll take this topic to another thread.
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. - Plato
Gazelam wrote:yes, the doctrine of the Trinity is an offensive doctrine, I agree.
No, it is your behavior that is offensive.
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”