why were the Whitmers deposed as leaders in Missouri?
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why were the Whitmers deposed as leaders in Missouri?
I've wondered about this, and haven't got available to me books that discuss it. Who can explain the background and what happened that lead to the High Council in Far West deposing David Whitmer, John Whitmer, and W.W. Phelps as the Stake Presidency on Jan. 26th 1838?
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is this what you are looking for ??
Two senior apostles and most of the high council reject David and John Whitmer, W. W. Phelps as presidents of the church in Zion and arrange for neighborhood meetings on the case.
http://www.saintswithouthalos.com/m/380126.phtml
Two senior apostles and most of the high council reject David and John Whitmer, W. W. Phelps as presidents of the church in Zion and arrange for neighborhood meetings on the case.
http://www.saintswithouthalos.com/m/380126.phtml
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Ah, so it was apparently one of the same issues that they threw in Oliver Cowdery's face. That is, that they chose to sell some personally-owned land in Jackson County, which others in the church were adamant should be held onto, pending some eventual LDS return to that promised land. And the Stake Presidency refused to be controlled by others in the church in decisions such as how to dispose of their own property.
And they threw in a little Word of Wisdom as a bonus. Kind of ironic since Joseph Smith himself was a violator of the Word of Wisdom until, quite literally, the day he died.
Somehow I think there was more to this than control of their temporal affairs.
I do find it interesting though that a Stake High Council could simply vote to, essentially, fire the Stake Presidency.
Was this a case of moderates in the leadership being overthrown by more hardliners?
And they threw in a little Word of Wisdom as a bonus. Kind of ironic since Joseph Smith himself was a violator of the Word of Wisdom until, quite literally, the day he died.
Somehow I think there was more to this than control of their temporal affairs.
I do find it interesting though that a Stake High Council could simply vote to, essentially, fire the Stake Presidency.
Was this a case of moderates in the leadership being overthrown by more hardliners?
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This is discussed very adequately in Bushman's Rough Stone Rolling.
One moment in annihilation's waste,
one moment, of the well of life to taste-
The stars are setting and the caravan
starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste!
-Omar Khayaam
*Be on the lookout for the forthcoming album from Jiminy Finn and the Moneydiggers.*
one moment, of the well of life to taste-
The stars are setting and the caravan
starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste!
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*Be on the lookout for the forthcoming album from Jiminy Finn and the Moneydiggers.*
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Re: why were the Whitmers deposed as leaders in Missouri?
Sethbag wrote:I've wondered about this, and haven't got available to me books that discuss it. Who can explain the background and what happened that lead to the High Council in Far West deposing David Whitmer, John Whitmer, and W.W. Phelps as the Stake Presidency on Jan. 26th 1838?
in my opinion the ever power hungry Sidney Rigdon wanted the Whitmers and Oliver Cowdry out of the way. I think he was the main mover behind all that happened to them as well as many of the reasons the Church had problems in Missouri.
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The Lesueur book does seem to show Rigdon saying things, and fostering a militant attitude, that seems to have really backfired on the Mormons in Missouri later in 1838. One has to wonder what might have happened with the church had Sidney Rigdon not been around.
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LifeOnaPlate wrote:This is discussed very adequately in Bushman's Rough Stone Rolling.
Yep, when I want scholarship I want adequate scholarship. None of this challenging or thorough kind for me...
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LifeOnaPlate wrote:This is discussed very adequately in Bushman's Rough Stone Rolling.
Well, don't keep us in suspense. What does Bushman say was the reason?
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