Romney, anti-Mormon sentiment and political games.

[_chonguey]

Yeah, Go Obama.

HAHAHAHAHAHA ... snort ... giggle ...

Oh wait, you're serious, aren't you?

There's no way Obama is going to win the presidency. Regardless of his "Oprahization", he is even further to the left than Hillary is. More than likely, Hillary will win the Democrat nomination.

Like it or not, this is a middle-of-the-road country, and the further to either extreme you go, the less chance you have being elected in the general election. Look at McGovern in '72, Carter in '80, and Mondale in '84. And, just to make it even, Goldwater didn't win in '64, either. Or George Wallace in '68. Those are probably, in my opinion, the most recent examples of the most extreme candidates getting the nomination of their respective parties.

Obama is generating a lot of press now and gone up in the polls precisely because primary voters are the more extreme and more likely to get involved. Most of the country will not even pay attention until the middle of next year.

If Obama is the nominee of the Democrats, count on a BIG republican win.

And what pray-tell is going to motivate these fired up Republican voters to deliver a win to the GOP in 08? Openly racist sentiment against Obama? Open Anti-feminism against Hillary? Anti-mormonism against Mitt? A love of everything great and wonderful that has happened in the U.S. since Bush's election 2000?

The things that "energize" so called value voters is plain old bigotry and a love of the status quo.

Who on the Republican side is going to be able to bring a message of change or hope that will mobilize these voters to their "cause"? Elections aren't won or lost on which side you think is right and no matter what, the GOP lost the message years ago. Most Americans, including myself from a conservative background, wouldn't cast a vote for another Bush or his ideological buddies to save my life. You undersetimate the number of people who feel the exact same way for a variety of reason.

Keep telling yourself Obama can't win. It will make your shattering disappointment all so much sweeter to me in 08.

[_mledbetter]

Yeah, Go Obama.

HAHAHAHAHAHA ... snort ... giggle ...

Oh wait, you're serious, aren't you?

There's no way Obama is going to win the presidency. Regardless of his "Oprahization", he is even further to the left than Hillary is. More than likely, Hillary will win the Democrat nomination.

Like it or not, this is a middle-of-the-road country, and the further to either extreme you go, the less chance you have being elected in the general election. Look at McGovern in '72, Carter in '80, and Mondale in '84. And, just to make it even, Goldwater didn't win in '64, either. Or George Wallace in '68. Those are probably, in my opinion, the most recent examples of the most extreme candidates getting the nomination of their respective parties.

Obama is generating a lot of press now and gone up in the polls precisely because primary voters are the more extreme and more likely to get involved. Most of the country will not even pay attention until the middle of next year.

If Obama is the nominee of the Democrats, count on a BIG republican win.

And what pray-tell is going to motivate these fired up Republican voters to deliver a win to the GOP in 08? Openly racist sentiment against Obama? Open Anti-feminism against Hillary? Anti-mormonism against Mitt? A love of everything great and wonderful that has happened in the U.S. since Bush's election 2000?

The things that "energize" so called value voters is plain old bigotry and a love of the status quo.

Who on the Republican side is going to be able to bring a message of change or hope that will mobilize these voters to their "cause"? Elections aren't won or lost on which side you think is right and no matter what, the GOP lost the message years ago. Most Americans, including myself from a conservative background, wouldn't cast a vote for another Bush or his ideological buddies to save my life. You undersetimate the number of people who feel the exact same way for a variety of reason.

Keep telling yourself Obama can't win. It will make your shattering disappointment all so much sweeter to me in 08.

Funny, I was just reflecting on how bigoted and closed-minded your comments are.

Your last line reminded me of the Incredibles when Syndrome was monologuing. That was such a funny movie...

So, what are you going to say when he loses?

And he would have won, too, if it wasn't for you crazy kids.

[_chonguey]

Funny, I was just reflecting on how bigoted and closed-minded your comments are.

Uh huh. Me, a white boy from Utah, wanting the first African American man in history to win the presidency because I believe he would be our best leader makes me a closed-minded bigot?

Wow, just wow.

Keep drinking your political kool-aid. That must be some tasty stuff :D

[_ozemc]

Yeah, Go Obama.

HAHAHAHAHAHA ... snort ... giggle ...

Oh wait, you're serious, aren't you?

There's no way Obama is going to win the presidency. Regardless of his "Oprahization", he is even further to the left than Hillary is. More than likely, Hillary will win the Democrat nomination.

Like it or not, this is a middle-of-the-road country, and the further to either extreme you go, the less chance you have being elected in the general election. Look at McGovern in '72, Carter in '80, and Mondale in '84. And, just to make it even, Goldwater didn't win in '64, either. Or George Wallace in '68. Those are probably, in my opinion, the most recent examples of the most extreme candidates getting the nomination of their respective parties.

Obama is generating a lot of press now and gone up in the polls precisely because primary voters are the more extreme and more likely to get involved. Most of the country will not even pay attention until the middle of next year.

If Obama is the nominee of the Democrats, count on a BIG republican win.

And what pray-tell is going to motivate these fired up Republican voters to deliver a win to the GOP in 08? Openly racist sentiment against Obama? Open Anti-feminism against Hillary? Anti-mormonism against Mitt? A love of everything great and wonderful that has happened in the U.S. since Bush's election 2000?

The things that "energize" so called value voters is plain old bigotry and a love of the status quo.

Sure, like good old Robert Byrd's KKK past. Is he going to vote for Obama?

Didn't you hear Andy Young? He said Bill Clinton was more black than Obama, and had more black women, too.

And you talk about the GOP being racist? Please. That's why it took a Republican to appoint the 1st two black Secretaries of State, right? It's about character, not color of skin.

Remeber, it was the old south Democrats in the 60's that voted against the civil rights act, including the High Priest of Global Warming's father, Al Gore, Sr.

Robert Byrd was still an ex-Klansman, then, too. He is the one that used the "N" word on TV, just a few years ago, remember?

Who on the Republican side is going to be able to bring a message of change or hope that will mobilize these voters to their "cause"? Elections aren't won or lost on which side you think is right and no matter what, the GOP lost the message years ago. Most Americans, including myself from a conservative background, wouldn't cast a vote for another Bush or his ideological buddies to save my life. You undersetimate the number of people who feel the exact same way for a variety of reason.

Keep telling yourself Obama can't win. It will make your shattering disappointment all so much sweeter to me in 08.

Obama is divisive, and very inexperienced.

Like I said, he might win the nomination, but he'll be creamed in the general election.

[Guest]

Funny, I was just reflecting on how bigoted and closed-minded your comments are.

Uh huh. Me, a white boy from Utah, wanting the first African American man in history to win the presidency because I believe he would be our best leader makes me a closed-minded bigot?

Wow, just wow.

Keep drinking your political kool-aid. That must be some tasty stuff :D

Just the idea that you are so obsessed with the fact that you are white and he is black makes you a bigot, yes.

Oh, and the broad brush with which you paint conservatives also makes you a bigot.

Mmmm, I like grape.

[_ozemc]

Funny, I was just reflecting on how bigoted and closed-minded your comments are.

Uh huh. Me, a white boy from Utah, wanting the first African American man in history to win the presidency because I believe he would be our best leader makes me a closed-minded bigot?

Wow, just wow.

Keep drinking your political kool-aid. That must be some tasty stuff :D

Interesting.

I'm a white man from the old south, and I could care less about the color of his skin.

I think he's divisive, inexperienced, and way too socialistic.

I look for what the candidate's position's are, not the color of his, or her, skin.

[_chonguey]

Just the idea that you are so obsessed with the fact that you are white and he is black makes you a bigot, yes.

Oh, and the broad brush with which you paint conservatives also makes you a bigot.

What, blacks can't support whites and whites can't support blacks without everyone being some sort of race traitor? Are you insane?

I have the rights to my own political opinions, informed by my own life and experiences and none of that adds up to bigotry. I have ever right to despise the actions and motives of so-called conservatives based on their political records. If distrust of conservative politicians like Bush and his buddies makes me a bigot in your book, fine. That's a bigotry that is justified by righteous indignation over what has taken place in the last 8 years.

Go back to your Talking Point Memos and think they way Faux news tells you to think. You'll be happier that way. You won't have to respond intelligently to other viewpoints. No thinking is required at all in fact. :D

[Guest]

Interesting.

I'm a white man from the old south, and I could care less about the color of his skin.

I think he's divisive, inexperienced, and way too socialistic.

I look for what the candidate's position's are, not the color of his, or her, skin.

No patriotic American could hope for any more when others enter the ballot box. If you believe that way about Obama, I don't regret your lack of support. Policy is the driving force in politics, not race or other superficial issues.

You say Obama is divisive but seem to deny the possibility that this "divisiveness" might have anything to do with White Racism in the GOP strongholds of the south. It is true that he might be divisive in many ways. I'm just saying any idiot who allows his divisness opinion to be driven by Obama's skin is the true bigot in all this. If you are implying that millions of whites won't vote for blacks or vice a versa and only support their own skin tone is an idea as outdated as slavery or segregation.

I'm just not sure how committed conservatives really are to the vision of the civil-rights movement when a large bit of anti-Obama rhetoric plays on the race issue, both subtly and overtly. I'd like to hear a conservative voice the opinion that it IS possible for an African American to win the presidency, that there is nothing about Obama as a man that should stop him from gaining the political support he so clearly is gaining.

If you don't think that's possible, then you don't share Obama's vision of the 21st Century, or mine either for that point.

[_moksha]

For those with linkability:

http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index.php?s=ed5848e62aa237bf275e0215f3092b6e&showtopic=30580

Thread titled: Larry O' Donnell And Outrageous Mormon Slam, on McLaughlin Group

http://newsbusters.org/static/2007/12/2007-12-07PBSMG.wmv

[_Jason Bourne]

Yeah, Go Obama.

HAHAHAHAHAHA ... snort ... giggle ...

Oh wait, you're serious, aren't you?

There's no way Obama is going to win the presidency. Regardless of his "Oprahization", he is even further to the left than Hillary is. More than likely, Hillary will win the Democrat nomination.

Like it or not, this is a middle-of-the-road country, and the further to either extreme you go, the less chance you have being elected in the general election. Look at McGovern in '72, Carter in '80, and Mondale in '84. And, just to make it even, Goldwater didn't win in '64, either. Or George Wallace in '68. Those are probably, in my opinion, the most recent examples of the most extreme candidates getting the nomination of their respective parties.

Obama is generating a lot of press now and gone up in the polls precisely because primary voters are the more extreme and more likely to get involved. Most of the country will not even pay attention until the middle of next year.

If Obama is the nominee of the Democrats, count on a BIG republican win.

And what pray-tell is going to motivate these fired up Republican voters to deliver a win to the GOP in 08? Openly racist sentiment against Obama? Open Anti-feminism against Hillary? Anti-mormonism against Mitt? A love of everything great and wonderful that has happened in the U.S. since Bush's election 2000?

The things that "energize" so called value voters is plain old bigotry and a love of the status quo.

Who on the Republican side is going to be able to bring a message of change or hope that will mobilize these voters to their "cause"? Elections aren't won or lost on which side you think is right and no matter what, the GOP lost the message years ago. Most Americans, including myself from a conservative background, wouldn't cast a vote for another Bush or his ideological buddies to save my life. You undersetimate the number of people who feel the exact same way for a variety of reason.

Keep telling yourself Obama can't win. It will make your shattering disappointment all so much sweeter to me in 08.

I am a disillusioned republican who has become so due to Bush and also due to the poor track record of 6 years of a republican congress. I used to feel more conservative but am more moderate now. And I would take any of the republican nominees save Ron Paul over Clinton or Obama. I think if you put either of them up they will lose to any to the top three of four republicans. They are both too polarizing. Put in Dennis Richardson and the Democrats might have a chance. I would vote for him I think over a few of the republicans.