The questions Romney should answer

[_moksha]

Forget religious obsession. Here are good questions:

1. Will you support campaign finance reform to get your party out of the back pocket of fat cat billionaires and why not?

2. Will you provide a good health care system for the citizens of the United States that does not provide big profits to the insurance and drug industries and why not?

3. Will you bring the Iraq war to a swift close and why not?

[_Jason Bourne]

1. Because Joseph Smith is neither Jesus nor Abraham.

So what? Dart's question in context made absolute sense.

2. Of course it does not make sense. You are uninformed. Romney was and possibly still is carrying over the hawkish behavir concerning Iran.

You have yet to substantiate Romney dodged service.

3. Its a loaded question indeed, directed towards the I Heart Huckabees.

What is an I Hear Huckabee?

[_Jason Bourne]

1. Why does your church maintain segregated congregations, even today?

It doesn't.

I guess you haven't been in the South, lately. Even in interated neighborhoods there are black Baptist and white Baptist churches.

No there is not. What other church equivalent to Mormonism tells the congregaton where they have to attend. It is this economic segregation that sickens me, not the racist segregation I experienced even last week at the ward christmas party.

LDS ward boundaries are primarily there because it is a lay church and the way it is run makes it easier with boundaries. In my experience wards can run across all sort of socio economic levels but then I live in a place where there are not many LDS. I imagine in areas there are more LDS there may be more separation due to economics primarily because wards are made based on where one lives.

[_Jason Bourne]

Moonies believe Jesus was divine, but that he failed in his main purpose, to restore the pure Family, If I recall correctly, and The Father (ie, Rev Moon) is here to fulfill what Jesus could not.

by the way, I agree with Jason. Yes, Mormonism is not mainstream christianity and teaches concepts mainstream christianity views as heresy, but if the primary definition of a christian is to "accept Jesus as one's savior", ie, to believe that the act of atonement in someway absolves human beings of sin and enables them to return to God, then there is no doubt Mormons are christians.

I understand the antipathy that exists between Mormonism and mainstream christianity, and there is no doubt the early leaders of the LDS church encouraged and exacerbated that antipathy, but that does not mean Mormons cannot logically be called Christians.

And in the Mormon mindset Joe is here to finish the job Christ started, like millennial bookends.

No he is not. Do you really not understand the Church you have left and so badly hate?

[_Jason Bourne]

How do you define cult?

I don't. I don't need those kinds of terms to make my points. It's just weak. I notice you still have not answered my question, by the way.

Let me ask you this. I assume you are "traditional Christian". If the message of YOUR church is so great and grand, why not promote its message? Mormons go door to door and ask if they can tell you what their message is. If you want, you can come to my house and tell me your message. What I don't get is why you have to attack Mormonism. Is your message so weak in comparison to the Mormon message that you have to level the playing field? It is like kids all sitting around making sand castles for some contest.. Instead of one trying to just build the best sand castle, he has to go stomp on someone elses... If you are the best sand castle maker, then your own performace should catch everyone's attention...

JMS

Josh

Merc is a disaffected Mormon. Not sure if he has resigned yet. He is at least an atheist. He despises the Mormon Church.

[_charity]

1. Why does your church maintain segregated congregations, even today?

It doesn't.

I guess you haven't been in the South, lately. Even in interated neighborhoods there are black Baptist and white Baptist churches.

No there is not. What other church equivalent to Mormonism tells the congregaton where they have to attend. It is this economic segregation that sickens me, not the racist segregation I experienced even last week at the ward christmas party.

Economic? In our ward there is a family that lives in a mansion with 13 bathrooms. And families with 4 children who live in 3 bedroom apartments. What are you talking about?

[_Gadianton]

Economic? In our ward there is a family that lives in a mansion with 13 bathrooms. And families with 4 children who live in 3 bedroom apartments. What are you talking about?

"But it is not given that one man should possess that which is above another, wherefore the world lieth in sin." (Doctrine and Covenants 49:20)

So much for the old Doc and Cov, might as well flush it down the old crap swirler, LOL!

[_Mercury]

Well, I asked permission to post his PM, and he said Ok...
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Look, I know its probably past your bedtime and all but I just wanted to drop ou a note to say welcome to the board. We don't get alot of mentally unstable people here outside of the people coming to a realization Mormonism is a destructive organization and need someone to talk to. You are one of those people, just as I was. I am an agnostic now and my personal journey out of Mormonism and into reason began when I accepted what true Academia is and how we can use it to discern between b***s*** and truth.

Mormonism is obvious b***s***. Study and take your meds. You have a long day selling cutco knives tomorrow I'm sure so ill end on a cordial note.

Tell your parents I said hi if you can shout at them through the basement door.
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I mean come on. Is rational discussion even possible?

JMS

No, i said for you to do whatever you wanted, that's not permission.

[_beastie]

Whether or not economic segregation exists in the Mormon church depends on how many members live in a geographic area. If there are so many Mormons that wards literally simply cut across neighbor lines, then yes, there is economic segregation. Or in cities that have obvious economic segregation, those wards can end up so segregated as well. But in areas with fewer members, usually the rich are thrown in with the poor.

I agree with mok, by the way:

1. Will you support campaign finance reform to get your party out of the back pocket of fat cat billionaires and why not?

2. Will you provide a good health care system for the citizens of the United States that does not provide big profits to the insurance and drug industries and why not?

3. Will you bring the Iraq war to a swift close and why not?

These are the important questions.

As long as the US remains largely comprised of Christian believers, of various stripes, all religious candidates are going to kow-tow to those beliefs (even if they don't really adhere to them privately). And yes, all religions have illogical claims and closet skeletons.

Even the Democrats (I say "even" because it is the party that is less controlled by religionists in general) bend over backwards to tell everybody what big Christians they are. It's just part of our culture, so I want someone who has enough sense to take care of our pressing problems. To me, there's not enough difference between someone believing the garden of eden is in missouri, or was somewhere in the mid-east for it, or any other religious belief, to be a big issue.

But please, please, let them answer mok's Big three, although I would add a fourth:

4. What are you going to do about global warming? (shut up coggins, ain't interested in your baloney)

[_Gazelam]

I see he answered your #2 Question.

He wants to make health care mandatory, and let it be controlled on a state level.