Gad calls me a bigot

Post by **_jskains** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:00 am

So you equate me with these folks?

WBC (a really scary group of Baptists)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neuGryms ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nr2Sdmz ... re=related

I love this response to them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXnfqfxb ... re=related

But remember, I am the bigot.

JMS

Post by **_Moniker** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:05 am

Someone hateful, or intolerant, of a certain lifestyle (or group of people) is a bigot. If that accurately describes you then you are indeed a bigot.

Post by **_jskains** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:07 am

I also love this response:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8cN2pB3 ... re=related

JMS

Post by **_jskains** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:08 am

Moniker wrote:Someone hateful, or intolerant, of a certain lifestyle (or group of people) is a bigot. If that accurately describes you then you are indeed a bigot.

So are you tolerant of the group NAMBLA?

JMS

Post by **_Moniker** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:18 am

jskains wrote:
Moniker wrote:Someone hateful, or intolerant, of a certain lifestyle (or group of people) is a bigot. If that accurately describes you then you are indeed a bigot.

So are you tolerant of the group NAMBLA?

JMS

Yes, I am tolerant of the group NAMBLA. I am concerned with any illegal actions as it relates to pedophilia. Yet, I'm not frothing at the mouth hating them and their message. There are many groups that advocate policies that are against the status quo and are currently illegal -- I am not against them having the right to organize and share their message.

Post by **_jskains** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:20 am

Moniker wrote:Yes, I am tolerant of the group NAMBLA. I am concerned with any illegal actions as it relates to pedophilia. Yet, I'm not frothing at the mouth hating them and their message. There are many groups that advocate policies that are against the status quo and are currently illegal -- I am not against them having the right to organize and share their message.

So I would not have a right to question their ideas? If I question their ideas, I would be a bigot, right?

JMS

Post by **_jskains** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:21 am

Sorry, one more, but this guy does get her in her place. This is the daughter of the leader of the WBC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWAawKFM ... re=related

JMS

Post by **_Moniker** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:23 am

jskains wrote:
Moniker wrote:Yes, I am tolerant of the group NAMBLA. I am concerned with any illegal actions as it relates to pedophilia. Yet, I'm not frothing at the mouth hating them and their message. There are many groups that advocate policies that are against the status quo and are currently illegal -- I am not against them having the right to organize and share their message.

So I would not have a right to question their ideas? If I question their ideas, I would be a bigot, right?

JMS

Of course the questioning of another's ideas, propositions, policies, philosophies, etc... does not make one a bigot. It is the inability to question your own that may make one a bigot. :)

Post by **_jskains** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:25 am

Moniker wrote:
jskains wrote:
Moniker wrote:Yes, I am tolerant of the group NAMBLA. I am concerned with any illegal actions as it relates to pedophilia. Yet, I'm not frothing at the mouth hating them and their message. There are many groups that advocate policies that are against the status quo and are currently illegal -- I am not against them having the right to organize and share their message.

So I would not have a right to question their ideas? If I question their ideas, I would be a bigot, right?

JMS

Of course the questioning of another's ideas, propositions, policies, philosophies, etc... does not make one a bigot. It is the inability to question your own that may make one a bigot. :)

But is it not true that if someone opens some questions and ideas that are counter to pro-homosexual ideology, they get automatically marked as a bigot?

A bit like if a black man were denied a job and pulled the race card, it is hard to fight against it?

JMS

Post by **_Moniker** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:31 am

jskains wrote:
Moniker wrote:
jskains wrote:
Moniker wrote:Yes, I am tolerant of the group NAMBLA. I am concerned with any illegal actions as it relates to pedophilia. Yet, I'm not frothing at the mouth hating them and their message. There are many groups that advocate policies that are against the status quo and are currently illegal -- I am not against them having the right to organize and share their message.

So I would not have a right to question their ideas? If I question their ideas, I would be a bigot, right?

JMS

Of course the questioning of another's ideas, propositions, policies, philosophies, etc... does not make one a bigot. It is the inability to question your own that may make one a bigot. :)

But is it not true that if someone opens some questions and ideas that are counter to pro-homosexual ideology, they get automatically marked as a bigot?

JMS

I didn't label you a bigot, nor did I see where Gad accused you of bigotry. I can't speak as to whether you are or are not a bigot. I think good people can disagree and not be bigoted. Especially when it comes to policy issues.

I am not familiar with pro-homosexual ideology, sorry. Would that be the premise that all citizens of our republic share equal rights under the law and that the government should not give favored status to some groups over others? There are many different reasons one may wish to deny equality without necessarily being bigoted, I suppose. Although, I'm having a hard time coming up with one. For me, personally if I see someone showing disdain or hate toward an entire group of people I label that person a bigot.

A bit like if a black man were denied a job and pulled the race card, it is hard to fight against it?

I have no idea what you're attempting to say to me. No worries, that happens often. :)