A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry
Obstinately so. In other words, it needs to be unreasonable. You can find the idea of being a murderer wrong. You can choose to remove them from society. Is it Ok to not hire someone because they are gay? No. That would be bigotry. Of course, I don't see Charity advocating that.
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Perhaps after Christ came, we aren't supposed to kill them anymore, but the fact that it is an abomination hasnt changed.
In a culture where homosexuality is an abomination and polygamy is accepted, I see very little of God.
A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry
Obstinately so. In other words, it needs to be unreasonable. You can find the idea of being a murderer wrong. You can choose to remove them from society. Is it Ok to not hire someone because they are gay? No. That would be bigotry. Of course, I don't see Charity advocating that.
I didn't accuse her of advocating this (though I suspect that there are many Mormons and Christians who do advocate this). I merely asked whether bigotry is a sin.
She has yet to answer.
Anyone want to venture a guess as to why?
God . . . "who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, . . . and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him ..."
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Perhaps after Christ came, we aren't supposed to kill them anymore, but the fact that it is an abomination hasnt changed.
Gee, how magnaminous of you. I'm sure that gays the world over will heave a sigh of relief that the god no longer commands that they be killed. (That he at one time did command this does not speak highly of God--the murderous bastard that he is).
As a practical matter, the "hate the sin, love the sinner" cliché tends not to play out too well. People demonstrate a fundamental inability to separate the two.
So, Gaz, let me ask you, since Charity is wimping out:
Is bigotry a sin?
God . . . "who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, . . . and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him ..."
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Perhaps after Christ came, we aren't supposed to kill them anymore, but the fact that it is an abomination hasnt changed.
Well, according to Leviticus a woman is unclean and unfit to God while she is having a period...and must offer a sacrifice two turtles and two pigeons (you can probably throw in a partridge in a pear tree in honor of the season) at the tabernacle before made fit again before God.
God's a little quirky in the Old Testament. If I were trying to define, defend and justify God in any manner, I'd probably avoid the Old Testament like the plague. (plague, heh, get it?)
"I think one of the great mysteries of the gospel is that anyone still believes it." Sethbag, MADB, Feb 22 2008
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Perhaps after Christ came, we aren't supposed to kill them anymore, but the fact that it is an abomination hasnt changed.
Well, according to Leviticus a woman is unclean and unfit to God while she is having a period...and must offer a sacrifice two turtles and two pigeons (you can probably throw in a partridge in a pear tree in honor of the season) at the tabernacle before made fit again before God.
God's a little quirky in the Old Testament. If I were trying to define, defend and justify God in any manner, I'd probably avoid the Old Testament like the plague. (plague, heh, get it?)
The problem with using the Old Testament at all for Christians is that Christ fullfulled the Old Testament, and the Laws of Moses are no longer valid.
We can use the New Testament no problem, because the law didn't change, just the punishment.
Rom. 1:21-32
Homosexuality is against everything the gospel stands for, and is second only to murder, in that it is a breach of the law of chastity, and against common social decency.
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. - Plato
I would prefer genetic hiccup to 'sin'. Like the word 'cult'...it is much less emotive perhaps...
Sometimes nature messes up...
Gazelam if you are pulling out specific scriptures to point out how terrible 'homosexuality' is, then how do you differenciate between the scriptures that 'are' actually Gods unadulterated word, and those that are not...???
I would think 'God' just might be horrified at the thoughts and actions that have been credited to him/her/it!
Can homosexuality be practiced morally? I would have thought that allowing for same sex partnerships would cover this aspect..
Someone who is homosexual in the eyes of the church is bound and fettered by a body that is attracted to its own sex, unable to have children and unable to share any intimacy with another.....
I would say that that is a pretty heavy burden for most people to carry. It's okay for those in command to shout, 'let the seagulls fly over but don't let them rest on your shoulder', ...I wonder if they would be so quick to shout it if they themselves had the same genetic hiccup!!??