This is why critics are so relentless...

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liz3564 wrote:I just have to quote this one:

Q: Does the Mormon Church believe its followers can become "gods and goddesses" after death?

A: We believe that the apostle Peter’s biblical reference to partaking of the divine nature and the apostle Paul’s reference to being 'joint heirs with Christ' reflect the intent that children of God should strive to emulate their Heavenly Father in every way. Throughout the eternities, Mormons believe, they will reverence and worship God the Father and Jesus Christ. The goal is not to equal them or to achieve parity with them but to imitate and someday acquire their perfect goodness, love and other divine attributes.


All I can say is...Wow! Who gave these answers?

Note the last sentence which I bolded.

This is not only massively side-stepping the question, but really is not correct.


Ahh.. You don't understand.. . they were answering the question that should have been asked..
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MishMagnet wrote:The whereabouts of Kolob are also known.

That's news to me.

I have heard speculation that Kolob is the north star since all stars appear to circle around it (it appears to govern all other stars if one has an ancient understanding about astronomy without knowing about galaxies, etc.)
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asbestosman wrote:
MishMagnet wrote:The whereabouts of Kolob are also known.

That's news to me.

I have heard speculation that Kolob is the north star since all stars appear to circle around it (it appears to govern all other stars if one has an ancient understanding about astronomy without knowing about galaxies, etc.)

If you've never read it, you should read "The Kolob Theorem" by Lynn M. Hilton, PhD. There are some interesting thoughts in it (although much of it made me go "Say What!", and "teeheehee"). If I recall correctly, it's only about 100 pages and should be available online somewhere.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
asbestosman wrote:
MishMagnet wrote:The whereabouts of Kolob are also known.

That's news to me.

I have heard speculation that Kolob is the north star since all stars appear to circle around it (it appears to govern all other stars if one has an ancient understanding about astronomy without knowing about galaxies, etc.)

If you've never read it, you should read "The Kolob Theorem" by Lynn M. Hilton, PhD. There are some interesting thoughts in it (although much of it made me go "Say What!", and "teeheehee"). If I recall correctly, it's only about 100 pages and should be available online somewhere.


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Blixa wrote:
Also disturbing were the two or three places where consecutive questions were answered with exactly the same answer. From a PR vantage that's more shocking as it sounds like a robotic reading of can't-be-deviated-from script.


I think what was going on in the mind of the church PR dude answering these was something like "this is a waste of my time to answer these anti-mormon inspired, irritating questions, so I'm only going to give superficial answers to the morons that are wasting our time. If they want to know more, they can invite the missionaries who will show them the way to pray, pay and obey like the rest of us."
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Who Knows wrote:Misrepresenting and distorting is exactly what the church is doing with these bogus answers.

Sigh ... singing "If You Could Hie to Kolob" will never quite be the same again.
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I went to the site and there is a bit of deception.

First Fox claimed the Church didn't want to answer the questions. Then notice there is a lot of repeats to the questions.

How much of that is the Church and how much is Fox playing games? Fox isn't exactly a beacon of truth.

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jskains wrote:I went to the site and there is a bit of deception.

First Fox claimed the Church didn't want to answer the questions. Then notice there is a lot of repeats to the questions.

How much of that is the Church and how much is Fox playing games? Fox isn't exactly a beacon of truth.

JMS


Nor is the church....
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jskains wrote:I went to the site and there is a bit of deception.

First Fox claimed the Church didn't want to answer the questions. Then notice there is a lot of repeats to the questions.

How much of that is the Church and how much is Fox playing games? Fox isn't exactly a beacon of truth.

JMS


Neither is the church, for that matter. ;)

They answered about the way I expected them to answer. Not quite forthright, but just vague enough to gloss over the problematic.
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Runtu wrote:
jskains wrote:I went to the site and there is a bit of deception.

First Fox claimed the Church didn't want to answer the questions. Then notice there is a lot of repeats to the questions.

How much of that is the Church and how much is Fox playing games? Fox isn't exactly a beacon of truth.

JMS


Neither is the church, for that matter. ;)

They answered about the way I expected them to answer. Not quite forthright, but just vague enough to gloss over the problematic.


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