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Mister Scratch wrote:
What "sloppy research", Ray? The "research" wasn't conducted by me.


Informants, take note, you are on notice from President Scratch.


Mister Scratch wrote:I was merely given a tip, and a link to the ZLMB thread.


Now I'm even more curious to know who your "informants" are. I already know who one is/was.


Mister Scratch wrote:I thought it was interesting that your lifestyle seemed to contrast so sharply with your "love" for the Book of Mormon, and your violence-laced attacks on Church critics, hence the post.


So you have no problem with Thomas Jefferson's admitted hedonistic/epicurean lifestyle, and him re-writing the New Testament, which became known as The Jefferson Bible? Maybe you should stop reading Dagwood comics and do some real thinking for a change.

Mister Scratch wrote:What is it you disagree with me about, Ray? I'm actually kind of curious about this.


Curiosity killed the cat. Why should I disagree with someone who says I have a "Madonna-Whore" complex? No reason in the world to do so. I just like "entertainment".

Mister Scratch wrote:You see yourself as a kind of "cherry-picker"?


If it's good enough for Jefferson, it's good enough for a braindead cab-driver.

Mister Scratch wrote:Well, you lied when you said you would keep any discussion between you and I private. I turns out that you didn't actually have any genuine curiosity about my "motives," but instead you just wanted to find a sore spot to poke, or an excuse to issue a lecture.


How old are you, really? Does your mother know you're posting here?

Mister Scratch wrote:In other words: You don't have any evidence. We already know that you fiddle with and mess up PMs, and then refuse to pony up the evidence when the going gets tough, so this argument goes right out the window, buddy boy.


This is classic. Something like the carpenter blaming his tools. I really got to ask you this, dude. Do you always turn the blame on others for what you do?

Jason is right - you are one sick dude.
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Mister Scratch wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
What "sloppy research", Ray? The "research" wasn't conducted by me. I was merely given a tip, and a link to the ZLMB thread.


You were "given" a tip and a link and you didn't bother to read it. All you had to do was scroll through three pages, Scratch. Geez....


Come on, Jersey. You are trying to score a point where there is no point to score. You are bitter about the Mrs. Robbins thing, and are trying to stick it to me. Well, get over it. How you feel about the Mrs. Robbins stuff is how I felt getting jerked around by you, with your endless game-playing. If you want me to apologize for posting the PM pertaining to Coggins, I'll go ahead and do that: I am sorry for posting your PM. You didn't deserve that. I was mad that you'd doled out a profane "lecture" to me, and so I retaliated. But, this is not a good excuse, you didn't deserve to have your PM posted, and I'm sorry.

But I am not sorry about looking into your involvement in the Mrs. Robbins thing. You refused to provide a straight-up answer to one of the "victims," and opted to play guessing games instead. What else was I supposed to think, Jersey? If you want to continue carrying a grudge over all of it, well, that is your prerogative.


You bet your sorry sloppy researching ass I refused to provide a straight up answer to one of the "victims". Look what you do with what you get! Not very nice, Scratch. Not nice at all.

;-)


What? Correctly identifying Itchy would have somehow been a bad thing? Is that what you're saying? You would have just told me, and I would have---what? Started a thread? And this would have been bad how?

You really have no business accusing me of being a "sorry sloppy researching ass," Jersey. I mean, come on: you had to issue a public apology for your Kerry Shirts screw-up! And then you deleted it out of shame! I have *never* made a foul-up as significant as that. The closest thing was, incidentally, the Mrs. Robbins thing, but there's a very good reason why I made the foul-up, and it wasn't due to being suckered by juliann/Pahoran.


I "had" to do no such thing at all, Scratch. That's what honest people do when they screw up. And no, twisted sister, I didn't delete it out of "shame". I stated exactly why I deleted it on the thread.

Distort much?
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Ray A wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:
What "sloppy research", Ray? The "research" wasn't conducted by me.


Informants, take note, you are on notice from President Scratch.


Again: what "sloppy research"? I see you are now hobbling, trying to get out of this jam by making stupid jokes. My point (in case you've forgotten) was that you likely would not want to admit to certain things you've done in the midst of a certain kind of company. My point was also that admitting such would cripple your credibility with all the TBMs whom you claim "often listen" to you.

Mister Scratch wrote:I thought it was interesting that your lifestyle seemed to contrast so sharply with your "love" for the Book of Mormon, and your violence-laced attacks on Church critics, hence the post.


So you have no problem with Thomas Jefferson's admitted hedonistic/epicurean lifestyle, and him re-writing the New Testament, which became known as The Jefferson Bible? Maybe you should stop reading Dagwood comics and do some real thinking for a change.


Come on, Ray. We are not talking about Jefferson. We are talking about you.

Mister Scratch wrote:What is it you disagree with me about, Ray? I'm actually kind of curious about this.


Curiosity killed the cat. Why should I disagree with someone who says I have a "Madonna-Whore" complex? No reason in the world to do so. I just like "entertainment".


Oh. So you don't actually have any real point. Okay.

Mister Scratch wrote:Well, you lied when you said you would keep any discussion between you and I private. I turns out that you didn't actually have any genuine curiosity about my "motives," but instead you just wanted to find a sore spot to poke, or an excuse to issue a lecture.


How old are you, really? Does your mother know you're posting here?


Another all-too-convenient dodge.

Mister Scratch wrote:In other words: You don't have any evidence. We already know that you fiddle with and mess up PMs, and then refuse to pony up the evidence when the going gets tough, so this argument goes right out the window, buddy boy.


This is classic. Something like th carpenter blaming his tools. I really got to ask you this, dude. Do you always turn the blame on others for what you do?


I'm not the one who refused to turn over the PM to Shades, Ray. Keep backpedaling.
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Jersey Girl wrote:[
I "had" to do no such thing at all, Scratch. That's what honest people do when they screw up.


"Had"/"chose"---take your pick. Since we're playing semantic games, why not change "honest people" to "sloppy ass researchers"?
And no, twisted sister, I didn't delete it out of "shame". I stated exactly why I deleted it on the thread.

Distort much?


You stated that you deleted it because "it was starting all over again," or "starting a new chapter," or some such nonsense. Regardless, it was that posting and the ensuing thread that raised questions about your integrity, thus leading to the "investigation," as it were.
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Mister Scratch wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:[
I "had" to do no such thing at all, Scratch. That's what honest people do when they screw up.


"Had"/"chose"---take your pick. Since we're playing semantic games, why not change "honest people" to "sloppy ass researchers"?
And no, twisted sister, I didn't delete it out of "shame". I stated exactly why I deleted it on the thread.

Distort much?


You stated that you deleted it because "it was starting all over again," or "starting a new chapter," or some such nonsense. Regardless, it was that posting and the ensuing thread that raised questions about your integrity, thus leading to the "investigation," as it were.


I deleted it because it was turning into yet another circus. Not out of "shame".

Questions about my integrity? You wouldn't know a straight arrow if it hit you between the eyes. There are many on this board who know the level of my integrity. As you well know.

Investigation, huh? Your investigation? Tell me, Scratch, how did you come up with the ZLMB Cal quotes you used on the thread where you accused me of being involved?
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:[
I "had" to do no such thing at all, Scratch. That's what honest people do when they screw up.


"Had"/"chose"---take your pick. Since we're playing semantic games, why not change "honest people" to "sloppy ass researchers"?
And no, twisted sister, I didn't delete it out of "shame". I stated exactly why I deleted it on the thread.

Distort much?


You stated that you deleted it because "it was starting all over again," or "starting a new chapter," or some such nonsense. Regardless, it was that posting and the ensuing thread that raised questions about your integrity, thus leading to the "investigation," as it were.


I deleted it because it was turning into yet another circus. Not out of "shame".

Questions about my integrity? You wouldn't know a straight arrow if it hit you between the eyes. There are many on this board who know the level of my integrity. As you well know.


Two people (arguably two and a half) vouched for your integrity---Gadianton and Harmony, and to an extent, Liz. Others did not, and in fact insisted they had proof against it. Others read the transcript of our chat and agreed that you seemed to be hiding something.

Investigation, huh? Your investigation? Tell me, Scratch, how did you come up with the ZLMB Cal quotes you used on the thread where you accused me of being involved?


I read them on the ZLMB thread in question.
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Mister Scratch wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:[
I "had" to do no such thing at all, Scratch. That's what honest people do when they screw up.


"Had"/"chose"---take your pick. Since we're playing semantic games, why not change "honest people" to "sloppy ass researchers"?
And no, twisted sister, I didn't delete it out of "shame". I stated exactly why I deleted it on the thread.

Distort much?


You stated that you deleted it because "it was starting all over again," or "starting a new chapter," or some such nonsense. Regardless, it was that posting and the ensuing thread that raised questions about your integrity, thus leading to the "investigation," as it were.


I deleted it because it was turning into yet another circus. Not out of "shame".

Questions about my integrity? You wouldn't know a straight arrow if it hit you between the eyes. There are many on this board who know the level of my integrity. As you well know.


Two people (arguably two and a half) vouched for your integrity---Gadianton and Harmony, and to an extent, Liz. Others did not, and in fact insisted they had proof against it. Others read the transcript of our chat and agreed that you seemed to be hiding something.

Investigation, huh? Your investigation? Tell me, Scratch, how did you come up with the ZLMB Cal quotes you used on the thread where you accused me of being involved?


I read them on the ZLMB thread in question.


Really? Are you registered there?
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:[
I "had" to do no such thing at all, Scratch. That's what honest people do when they screw up.


"Had"/"chose"---take your pick. Since we're playing semantic games, why not change "honest people" to "sloppy ass researchers"?
And no, twisted sister, I didn't delete it out of "shame". I stated exactly why I deleted it on the thread.

Distort much?


You stated that you deleted it because "it was starting all over again," or "starting a new chapter," or some such nonsense. Regardless, it was that posting and the ensuing thread that raised questions about your integrity, thus leading to the "investigation," as it were.


I deleted it because it was turning into yet another circus. Not out of "shame".

Questions about my integrity? You wouldn't know a straight arrow if it hit you between the eyes. There are many on this board who know the level of my integrity. As you well know.


Two people (arguably two and a half) vouched for your integrity---Gadianton and Harmony, and to an extent, Liz. Others did not, and in fact insisted they had proof against it. Others read the transcript of our chat and agreed that you seemed to be hiding something.

Investigation, huh? Your investigation? Tell me, Scratch, how did you come up with the ZLMB Cal quotes you used on the thread where you accused me of being involved?


I read them on the ZLMB thread in question.


Really? Are you registered there?


You don't have to be registered to read the threads, Jersey.
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Mister Scratch wrote:Again: what "sloppy research"? I see you are now hobbling, trying to get out of this jam by making stupid jokes.


I forgot, you don't have a sense of humour. My lapse.


Mister Scratch wrote:My point (in case you've forgotten) was that you likely would not want to admit to certain things you've done in the midst of a certain kind of company. My point was also that admitting such would cripple your credibility with all the TBMs whom you claim "often listen" to you.


I think "TBMs" are a lot smarter than you give them credit for. I don't have to start threads like "The Adventures of Ray "Cassonova" A. They are not as dumb as you think they are. But they are certainly much less spiteful.

Mister Scratch wrote:Come on, Ray. We are not talking about Jefferson. We are talking about you.


Well if you want to know more about my opinions - study Jefferson. Or even better - Tolstoy (but I don't agree with Tolstoy that the supernatural doesn't exist).

Mister Scratch wrote:
Oh. So you don't actually have any real point. Okay.


They just float over your headpiece - which is filled with straw.

Mister Scratch wrote:Well, you lied when you said you would keep any discussion between you and I private. I turns out that you didn't actually have any genuine curiosity about my "motives," but instead you just wanted to find a sore spot to poke, or an excuse to issue a lecture.


I wanted to find a "sore spot"? What do you do in your blog? Promote peace, love, and understanding?


Mister Scratch wrote:In other words: You don't have any evidence. We already know that you fiddle with and mess up PMs, and then refuse to pony up the evidence when the going gets tough, so this argument goes right out the window, buddy boy.


If I ever fiddled with a PM then Bill Clinton is a celebate monk.

Mister Scratch wrote:I'm not the one who refused to turn over the PM to Shades, Ray. Keep backpedaling.


I don't know why Shades would even trust you. You can easily alter those too. I haven't touched my PMs. Keene can go in and check the dates, times, and content anytime he likes. Why would I send anything? They own the board. They can access any part of it they like. Keene can access this with one click. You are just naïve to think that "sending" anything can make a difference. But the bottom line, Scratch, is that you know, and I know, you altered the content. I don't have to live with the lies - you do.
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Scratch
Two people (arguably two and a half) vouched for your integrity---Gadianton and Harmony, and to an extent, Liz. Others did not, and in fact insisted they had proof against it. Others read the transcript of our chat and agreed that you seemed to be hiding something.


I wasn't "hiding" anything. I refrained from naming the trolls. I told you outright that I wouldn't name them in the chat conversation. I stated on this very board that I wouldn't name them. Do I need to quote myself? Chat or post? You pick.
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