How do you know. Were you ever one? I was. I actually enjoyed it and look back at the two years with grand fondness. During that time an awkward 19 year old grew up, learned a lot about life, became confident, learned to work hard and have taken all that I learned into other endeavors that I have been quite successful at.
I think your case would NOT be the exception. It is one of the programs--for the reasons you state--that i endorse, with caveats. At the same time, i think there are changes that are over due. Also i think it would be more beneficial IF/WHEN they are called to serve the Community in more practical, humanitarian type, ways. "When you are in the service of your fellow humans, you ARE serving the Lord."
Missionaries are selling the church, that what they do nothing more, nothing less. So yes they should be treated better than the average member.
Living on 110.00 for food is cruel and unusual for salesmen.
Living in substandard housing is not right either. These young men and women should be living in the lap of luxury during the time they are serving the church cause without them how would the church grow and prosper?
Lap of luxury means having enough money for decent food and a decent place to live, cause it sounds like as soon as they go out in the field they become 2nd class citizens in the churches eyes.
They need missionaries/salesmen cause they bring in more people amd more people means more tithing more tithing means more malls.
If the church can afford billion dollar malls they can afford to treat the missionaries a lot better then 110.00 a month for food.
RIGHT.
I just don't see how any of this is right do you?
If this is okay with you then something is wrong with the world.
Then again anyone that willingly hands over ten percent of their income blindly does care about what is wrong with the church.
When I wake up I will be hungry....but this feels so good right now aaahhhhhh........
OUT OF MY MISERY wrote:No I was never a missionary so I would not know, but reading these posts tells me enough that it would suck. Of course you liked your mission but there have been many others that have not.
Now I have read that the church has cut their monthly money for food down to 110.00 a month. How can anyone live on 110.00 dollars a month for food? They must be hungry all the time. Doesn't the parents pay close to 400.00 a month to the church for the missionary? So where does the rest of the money go?
The church is so rich I would think they could support the missionaries themselves and have them living in lap of luxury because the missionaries are the salesmen for the church and should be paid accordingly. Instead they are living in run down places and forced to live on 110.00 for food. Something does not add up here.
Did the disciples of Christ live in the "lap of luxury"? For that matter, did Christ?
You can't compare missionaries and disciples of Christ as the same thing Jersey Girl.
That is like comparing apples and oranges and you know it.
So you think 110.00 for food in enough for the month?
You try and live 110.00 a month for food and have to rely on others to feed you to make up the difference.
When I wake up I will be hungry....but this feels so good right now aaahhhhhh........
OUT OF MY MISERY wrote:No I was never a missionary so I would not know, but reading these posts tells me enough that it would suck. Of course you liked your mission but there have been many others that have not.
Now I have read that the church has cut their monthly money for food down to 110.00 a month. How can anyone live on 110.00 dollars a month for food? They must be hungry all the time. Doesn't the parents pay close to 400.00 a month to the church for the missionary? So where does the rest of the money go?
There are all kinds of expenses for missionaries. Apartments, utilities, gas for cars if they have a car, etc. I imagine it is different in areas depending on affuence, but in our area, the missionaries have dinner every night with a family. The other day we took our 3 granddaughters to lunch at Pizza Hut. While we were there, the two elders assigned to our ward, came in for lunch. My husband picked up their tab. The boys don't starve.
OUT OF MY MISERY wrote: The church is so rich I would think they could support the missionaries themselves and have them living in lap of luxury because the missionaries are the salesmen for the church and should be paid accordingly. Instead they are living in run down places and forced to live on 110.00 for food. Something does not add up here.
Without experience of your own, you simply do not understand. That is why we don't have a paid ministry. Our missionaries don't go on missions to live a life of ease in luxury. They go to serve the Lord, and they live a simple life, as did He.
A simple life? How simple are you talking?
110.00 is a little to simple for me to swallow. Nuns who take a vow of poverty eat better than that.
I have had enough of my family members go on missions to understand what it is like to live in poverty.
My aunt tells me all about her sons mission experiences and the financial hardship they all suffered while her sons were on their missions.
Anyone that is basically selling the church should be at least afforded decent food and a decent place to live.
The church is wealthy beyond compare and yet these missionaries are forced to live like paupers.
I guess instead of the burning in the soul its hunger in the gut that compels them to do good work.
When I wake up I will be hungry....but this feels so good right now aaahhhhhh........
No I was never a missionary so I would not know, but reading these posts tells me enough that it would suck.
Of course. It gives you another stick to beat the Church with. Your tune has not changed at all in your absence.
Of course you liked your mission but there have been many others that have not.
Some do, some don't. Just about like everything in life.
Now I have read that the church has cut their monthly money for food down to 110.00 a month. How can anyone live on 110.00 dollars a month for food? They must be hungry all the time. Doesn't the parents pay close to 400.00 a month to the church for the missionary? So where does the rest of the money go?
The church is so rich I would think they could support the missionaries themselves and have them living in lap of luxury because the missionaries are the salesmen for the church and should be paid accordingly. Instead they are living in run down places and forced to live on 110.00 for food. Something does not add up here
How do you know. Were you ever one? I was. I actually enjoyed it and look back at the two years with grand fondness. During that time an awkward 19 year old grew up, learned a lot about life, became confident, learned to work hard and have taken all that I learned into other endeavors that I have been quite successful at.
I think your case would NOT be the exception. It is one of the programs--for the reasons you state--that I endorse, with caveats. At the same time, I think there are changes that are over due. Also I think it would be more beneficial IF/WHEN they are called to serve the Community in more practical, humanitarian type, ways. "When you are in the service of your fellow humans, you ARE serving the Lord."
Enjoy the Holiday! Warm regards, Roger
Roger
I agree, Best wishes in however you observe the holiday season.
No I was never a missionary so I would not know, but reading these posts tells me enough that it would suck.
Of course. It gives you another stick to beat the Church with. Your tune has not changed at all in your absence.
Of course you liked your mission but there have been many others that have not.
Some do, some don't. Just about like everything in life.
Now I have read that the church has cut their monthly money for food down to 110.00 a month. How can anyone live on 110.00 dollars a month for food? They must be hungry all the time. Doesn't the parents pay close to 400.00 a month to the church for the missionary? So where does the rest of the money go?
The church is so rich I would think they could support the missionaries themselves and have them living in lap of luxury because the missionaries are the salesmen for the church and should be paid accordingly. Instead they are living in run down places and forced to live on 110.00 for food. Something does not add up here
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Really? Where did you here that?
I read it on Infymus's blog. Have you look at his blog? The 110.00 came directly from the church itself.
No my tune has not changed what made think it would?
When I wake up I will be hungry....but this feels so good right now aaahhhhhh........
If we can get back to the topic: Today, my grandson on a mission called us. He said that in the "white book" they can only call parents. But he had asked his misison president if he could call us, too, since he had lived with us the 5 years preceeding his mission. The mission president, who had been raised by grandparents, gave him permission.
Oh,yes, he says he has put on a little weight and is being fed very well by members. Not going hungry at all.
OUT OF MY MISERY wrote:Missionaries are selling the church, that what they do nothing more, nothing less. So yes they should be treated better than the average member. Living on 110.00 for food is cruel and unusual for salesmen. Living in substandard housing is not right either. These young men and women should be living in the lap of luxury during the time they are serving the church cause without them how would the church grow and prosper? Lap of luxury means having enough money for decent food and a decent place to live, cause it sounds like as soon as they go out in the field they become 2nd class citizens in the churches eyes.
They need missionaries/salesmen cause they bring in more people amd more people means more tithing more tithing means more malls.
If the church can afford billion dollar malls they can afford to treat the missionaries a lot better then 110.00 a month for food. RIGHT. I just don't see how any of this is right do you? If this is okay with you then something is wrong with the world. Then again anyone that willingly hands over ten percent of their income blindly does care about what is wrong with the church.
I did quite fine when I was a missionary. Was never hungry and always had a decent plave to live. Course I served in the USA. I am sure others that go to poor countries may have some privation. I am confident it is fairly limited.
I rather think you really have no clue about this. Still wondering where you get $110 per month.
I read it on Infymus's blog. Have you look at his blog? The 110.00 came directly from the church itself.
Ibfymus's blog is not the the Church. I am skeptical of much on his blog. I am sure you have no clue how financing for missionaries work. I am also sure that you are unaware that local members where missionaries serve also help the missionary program by feeding the missionaries on a regular basis.
No my tune has not changed what made think it would?
I had hoped that you propensity for irrational rants with little evidence or reason for it may have dissipated I see my hope was in vain.