Brigham Young declared Levi's "Fornication Pants".

[_KimberlyAnn]

I found this link to one of BY's sermons on RfM: http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?a ... pe1760210c))

(I'm sorry. I can't get the link posted properly. Copy/paste the entire link, including the two parenthesis at the end, into your browser.)

In the sermon, BY refers to those new pants that button up the front (Levi's) as "fornication pants", insinuating that the button-up fly was for the ease of prostitutes.

The sermon certainly is an interesting read. Brigham sure had a dirty mouth!

I'm tickled by the response of "Joseph Smith" over on the RfM thread. He says all his pants were fornication pants...

Here are my favorite jeans ever: Levi's Low Flare 542's. I have them in the medium wash pictured, and a dark wash, which are my favorite. They're not button-fly, though, thank goodness, so I'm safe! No fornication pants for me!



And Levi's jeans are the Only True Jeans for men. I know 'cause when they fit just right, my bosom heats up just a little. (Hey-- perhaps BY was on to something. Maybe they are fornication pants!)

KA

[_Jersey Girl]

Buttons? I should think the zipper fronts would be quicker.

Don't ask me to explain that remark. Deduce from it what you will.

[_harmony]

And Levi's jeans are the Only True Jeans for men. I know 'cause when they fit just right, my bosom heats up just a little. (Hey-- perhaps BY was on to something. Maybe they are fornication pants!)

KA

Wranglers are the only True Jean for Men. Yum!

[Guest]

"There are those fornication pantaloons, made on purpose for whores to button up in front. My pantaloons button up here (showing how), where they belong, that my secrets, that God has given unto me, should not be exposed."

Should not be exposed - except to 50(!) women who are not your legal wife. I might add that is quite a lot more than this apostate can number. Oh perhaps 2008 will be the year when God commands me to be with 50(!) men other than my husband. If God commands it - it is not adultery. Even if my husband is none the wiser.

I'll have to take issue with your 'best jeans' by the way. I'm a fan of the Express X2 W31. I have yet to try on those outrageous Seven for All Mankind jeans but will make a point of it. Gosh darnit, if I pay $150 for jeans I definately expect fornication pantaloons.

[_moksha]

I believe if they were to come with a cob stuck in their behind, you would want to do the same. I despise their damnable fashions, their lying and whoring, and God being my helper, I'll live to see every one of these cussed fools off the earth, saint or sinner. I don't know that I have a wife but what would see me damned rather than that she should not get what she wanted, and that is what I think of all of them, and the men too.

I would see a Gentile further in Hell than they ever got, before I would follow their fashions, if it did not suit me. There is not a day I go out but I see the women's legs, and if the wind blows, you see them up to their bodies.

If you must wear their hoops, tie them down with weights, and don't let your petticoats be over your heads. It is ridiculous and should not be. It belongs to a set of whory congregations that love iniquity and corrupt themselves with one another. It belong there. It don't belong to this community.

How do you think I feel about it? Who cares about these infernal Gentiles?

If they were to wear a s--t pot on their heads, must I do so?

I know I ought to be ashamed, but when you show your tother end I have a right to talk about tother end. If you keep them hid, I'll be modest and not talk about them.

There are those fornication pantaloons, made on purpose for whores to button up in front. My pantaloons button up here (showing how), where they belong, that my secrets, that God has given unto me, should not be exposed.
- Brigham Young

I am pretty sure he is talking about looking up womens hoop skirts and not mentioning Levis. However, there is still something decidedly odd about his manner of speaking in Church - sort of like Mark Twain in a free spirited mood. I think there was an LDS Apostle named J. Golden Kimball that also used this bawdy style of speaking into the 20th Century. Damn blasted Gentiles with s--t pots on their heads and a cob stuck up thier behinds!

[_The Nehor]

Ahhhh, you don't get sermons like this anymore and that's a shame.

[_MishMagnet]

(removes s***pot from head and looks glum)

[_Doctor Steuss]

Prostitutes go nuts
For guys with Levi butts

[_Blixa]

(removes s***pot from head and looks glum)

You left the cob?

[_SatanWasSetUp]

Ahhhh, you don't get sermons like this anymore and that's a shame.

I agree. This is so much more interesting than 90-year old guys droning on about faith, love, charity, and tithing while drooling all over the pulpit. Much moreinteresting to hear Hinckley talk about where his pants zip and his private parts are between him and the lord.