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harmony wrote:although I think it was because of my last thread: the shortcomings of LDS men in bed.



I think this topic should be resurrected. Indeed, I have an interest in this topic.
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Oh, and not for any sort of *odd* reason... I'm just interested in how the indoctrination of shame impacts people later on in life. Anywhoha. I think it would be interesting if it could be done in a gentle way, without being hurtful, or harmful to anyone. okey dokey
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malkie wrote:But are non-TBM posters here prepared to boycott MADB? (Those who are still allowed to post, that is.) If what John said is true, they need antis & exmos more than antis & exmos need them (hmmmm, must there be opposition in all things?).


I don't know. If we boycotted this board would the same thing happen?
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The Nehor wrote:
malkie wrote:But are non-TBM posters here prepared to boycott MADB? (Those who are still allowed to post, that is.) If what John said is true, they need antis & exmos more than antis & exmos need them (hmmmm, must there be opposition in all things?).


I don't know. If we boycotted this board would the same thing happen?
The difference is that this MB does not have biased moderating.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
harmony wrote:Let's just say they figure it's a good thing their men are good providers, because they pretty much all failed as lovers.


The remedy is simple. Teach them to find the clitoris, and all will be well.


While that's a step in the right direction, it's not a panic button.
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While that's a step in the right direction it's not a panic button.


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Oh, and not for any sort of *odd* reason... I'm just interested in how the indoctrination of shame impacts people later on in life. Anywhoha. I think it would be interesting if it could be done in a gentle way, without being hurtful, or harmful to anyone. okey dokey


First, my disclaimer. I didn't grow up LDS so my experience is a bit different. Plus, in my own informal conversations with other sisters as believers, it seems to me that many LDS women are just not that interested in sex in the first place, and view it as a chore or obligation, so are only too happy when their husbands lose interest. Most of the complaints I heard were about husbands who wanted sex too much and bugged their wives, rather than poor performance in bed.

Having said that, I think LDS men are handicapped by lack of experience. Unless a man is lucky enough to match up with a woman who knows her body extremely well (another handicap for LDS women) and is secure enough to share that with her man, often neither really have a clue how to make things work better. OTOH, men who have had more than one partner have the advantage of being able to accumulate information garnered from different partners to help provide a pool of possibilities for experimentation to figure out what works best. (of course the same is true for women, as well, but the topic was male LDS performance in bed)
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richardMdBorn wrote:
The Nehor wrote:
malkie wrote:But are non-TBM posters here prepared to boycott MADB? (Those who are still allowed to post, that is.) If what John said is true, they need antis & exmos more than antis & exmos need them (hmmmm, must there be opposition in all things?).


I don't know. If we boycotted this board would the same thing happen?
The difference is that this MB does not have biased moderating.


Yeah, but would this board turn into RFM if the believers left? I'm not sure.
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beastie wrote:
While that's a step in the right direction it's not a panic button.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


:)

I considered replying to Shades remark -- then thought better of it.
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beastie wrote:
Oh, and not for any sort of *odd* reason... I'm just interested in how the indoctrination of shame impacts people later on in life. Anywhoha. I think it would be interesting if it could be done in a gentle way, without being hurtful, or harmful to anyone. okey dokey


First, my disclaimer. I didn't grow up LDS so my experience is a bit different. Plus, in my own informal conversations with other sisters as believers, it seems to me that many LDS women are just not that interested in sex in the first place, and view it as a chore or obligation, so are only too happy when their husbands lose interest. Most of the complaints I heard were about husbands who wanted sex too much and bugged their wives, rather than poor performance in bed.


That's sort of the impression I'm getting as well...

Having said that, I think LDS men are handicapped by lack of experience. Unless a man is lucky enough to match up with a woman who knows her body extremely well (another handicap for LDS women) and is secure enough to share that with her man, often neither really have a clue how to make things work better. OTOH, men who have had more than one partner have the advantage of being able to accumulate information garnered from different partners to help provide a pool of possibilities for experimentation to figure out what works best. (of course the same is true for women, as well, but the topic was male LDS performance in bed)


Well, if you have one partner that is not willing to experiment then all is not well. If you have a woman that shames a man for his sex drive, that's not well either -- you have the Church telling men that their natural impulses should be controlled in an EXTREME fashion and then if they marry and their wives are not gungho I could see how that could just impact the problem. Of course if the woman is told she shouldn't be sexual as well, no sexual thoughts, etc... that could certainly spell disaster for any sort of acquainting one another with themselves and their partner. It's very sad, actually. :(

I don't think lack of experience is NECESSARILY an indicator of anything -- I think the lack of experience could create hesitancy though... and that's not really good either. Although if a male is partnered with a female willing to experiment I would think that he wouldn't be necessarily against doing so -- unless I'm just totally out of the loop of the normal LDS, ex-LDS mind set.
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